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That was even less kind...

That was not very kind...

Huh??? The oldest branch of engineering is widely regarded to be civil engineering, and was originally begun to improve the lives of society, not to wake war toys. It was only later that rulers took notice that "civil engineers" could "design" ramparts and fortifications, improvise bridgeworks, develop such weapons as the catapult and trebuchet, and "pave" roads to improve warmongering. But we started out as nice guys. Really...

WTF??? Can't see it without joining vimeo.

Not quite sure yet, John. When I settle on e-something, I will let you e-know.

Cuz it's not in their bible. If it ain't in the bible, then it's just heresy, right?

Why? You're just gonna aid it anyway...

Thanks for diggin' that one back up, FF!

I have an older version of the Alpine Bod that doesn't have all of the plastic buckle thingies. It's pretty damn light and compactable, but I guess it's not made that way anymore. So after taking a look at BD's website, I'm going with 'kirk on this one... Alpine Bod 14 oz, 4 gear loops, no hook-ups for Ice Clipperz, $38 Couloir 8 oz, 2 gear loops, 4 Ice Clipperz attachment points, $50 There ya go, the choice is yours, but it looks like the Couloir fits your stated criteria...

+1 Agree with Friedrich - you're gonna need at least two harnesses. And another vote for the BD Alpine Bod for lightweight packability, no-muss/no-fuss leg entry, and for the all-important dropping of trou for those "environmental moments" that we all must endure en route... I also have an older version of the padded style of the Bod for sport/trad climbing. Has four gear loops, and all the same benefits of the Alpine Bod, but with the tre chic Synchilla padded waistband. The newer version of this harness now has a belay loop, whereas the older version worked just like the Alpine Bod (i.e., no belay loop). With the (new) belay loop, this harness will not allow you to drop trou without undoing the waist buckle. Bod

Yup. I have always been of the mind that the secret to a happy life in the mountains is to be well-victualled...

Definitely doesn't paint a pretty picture of those troops...

Yup, that's about the size of it...

I'll have the , please.

OK, hadn't heard that one. My kids oughta like it, tho...

Yay! And it works, too! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankkyou... Oh, and

Hmmm, don't know where that one is... North Cascades...??

Actually, I was thinking it should be vhoewerofsky... Just sayin'...

Poor sheep. They seem to enjoy it...

faster than ewe...

Where to?

Just here to claim my second all-important on this all-important thread.

Do the three screws come with it?

I wish someone would portage my booze for me like that. I might be able to get up a lot more peaks that way...

I would just simply die with no struggle on my way to that base camp, Paul. Ohhhhhh, I don't think so, judging from the TRs of yours that I've read. There's more fight in you than a honey badger... [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7pGZudN8rE