sobo

So why weren't you at Moon Rocks on Saturday, eh?

That's about all I needed to read...

We already bailed out the banks because they fucked up loaning to these people, why shouldn't we bail out the others? If you look around this site, you'll see that I already made my statement about baling out the banks. That was bullshit back then in the late 80s/early 90s (savings and loan fiasco), and it's still bullshit now (sub-prime mortgage debacle). Whatever, Carl. I would posit that knowingly entering hazardous avalanche terrain is stupid on any/all counts, even for a rescue. First Law of Rescue: Do not create more victims. The analogy applies equally as well to the sub-prime mortgage shitstorm. So, can I count on you to bail me out for my gross overspending on my next gear acquisition binge that I knowingly can't afford when the guy from the credit card collection agency shows up at the door of my soon-to-be-foreclosed-upon house for which I could not afford the payments? Will you cart my ass back and forth to and from the crags in your oh-so-sensible, well-within-your-means vehicle after the repo man snatches my over-priced, over-depreciated, uber-expensive, knowingly-out-of-my-price-range rig that I purchased with full awareness that I couldn't make the monthly payments? Thanks, Carl. I knew I could count on you, the Great American Taxpayer, to bail me out of the financial imbroglio of my misbegotten bling and trinketry, just like everyone else in this country has come to expect. :kisss:

Funny... I know a lot of these "idiots" and they bought in 2004/05 and sold 2 years later for much much more. It's like skiing a 35 deg bowl loaded with fresh powder. Just because one succeeds without triggering an avalanche doesn't mean it was a smart thing to try. Thank you, tomtom. You got it right. Like me Pa used to say, "Just cuz all of your friends are doing it, does that make it a right/smart/wise thing to do? If they all jumped off a cliff, would you, too?" And Hugh, A lot of middle-class white folk also went for the "buy more than you pay for" trip, so if you're trying to imply that I'm being racist with your reply, try again. I don't care what race, color, creed, nationality, marital status, or sexual preference you have, getting sucked into the sub-prime mortgage mess and signing on the line for more than you can pay for should be YOUR responsibility, NOT MINE as a taxpayer.

So Mel, how many hubbies do you have now, anyway?

I don't have any trouble paying for the NP entrance/climbing permits. It's the NW Forest trailhead parking pass that chaps my butt. A "demonstration" program begun in 1996 that has shown its (un)worthiness, was not voted upon by the users (that's us, the public), and has continued to be re-authorized by tagging on to omnibus spending bills by an idiot Senator who has not one acre of Forest Service land in his district.

Excellent reply!

The Padmasana on rappel was pretty righteous.

Have to agree with GGK on this one. It doesn't take a complete idiot to see that sub-prime mortgages were too good to be true, and greed and avarice had its day. The name "sub-prime mortgage" shoulda been a big fat fucking clue to run far away from that one... I mean really, what kind of a person gets him/herself into a mortgage that he/she knows in advance he/she has no way of making the fucking payments? An idiot, that's what kind... I have no sympathy for any of them. It's called personal responsibility, people...

I don't know who to feel more sorry for, either... Moira, or the morally bereft, internally desolate, self-disrespecting, low-life scumbag that pinched her 'pod.

Peeps still buy those things?

The epitome of PC... I like this definition: Political Correctness: A system of thinking where it's OK to offend someone right in front of you by enforcing a made-up rule to stop a theoretical offense to an unknown person at a later date when you aren't even going to be there.

Say "hi" to DoxManDude for me. Hardly. I would posit that with a regular partner/mentor, one might find the learning experience much more fun, enjoyable, and rewarding. It was for me, as I learned everything from mentors, including trad, big wall, and ice (learned alpine the hard way, all by meself, cuz me mentor got killed). 'course, all this was almost 25 years ago, before the explosion of the sport and related schools of instruction. YMMV

Crystalis Nacht. (Kristallnacht) edited by sobo Vaht evva happent mit ze final solution?

Along the lines of something like this: Heil!

It is. And I would know...

well, yeah, there's that, too.

What would a do?

Yah, all their weapons are brand new, never fired, and have only been dropped once.

white people Or like me, they forego the spending of fortunes in an effort to make Xerox copies of themselves, and just adopt beautiful little yellow snowflakes...

But that's what makes Peshashtin so damned much fun. The uncertainty of whether or not you're coming home in a body bag!

I'm with ZONK and markwebster on this one. I love Peshastin. It's not near as bad as every one makes it out to be. I've taken some pretty good whippers there, too. Landed on my belayer while going for the first clip on Slender Thread. It's like a 20-footer. Yikes! And I've been thrashed more than once by the squeeze on the first pitch of Lightning Crack. Ouch! And all the run-outs on Martian Slab, Austrian Slab, and the climbs to the right of WF of GCT (some serious pebble-pinchin') are what keep me coming back. For run-outs, it just doesn't get any better than Peshastin, except for Lightning Dome over in Idaho...

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhh, Couloir... very nice avatar. Again. Looks like it could be Olga's tummy, there...

Woo Hoo!!!1 Way to go, Mel! Just think, if you get a second one, you can name him Control! Is it just me, or does Agent 99 look like she's feeling herself up?

I would also leave a trail of bread crumbs along the way... ....and 10 essentials. Beer comes in 10 packs now? It does if I'm the grocery boy packing your purchases... :brew: