Don

thanks for the replies. I would say I'm a novice, having done lots of backpacking and sport climbing. I'm interested in Alpine climbing. I can see there are many pros and cons to either using a guide or a club. Looks like I'll need to sleep on this one more:)

I"m looking for a climbing course. Can anyone tell me which one I would get more out of, Mountainneers or the Boeing Club?

I have the day off and have never been to 38. I'm looking for someone who would'nt mind hooking up with a newbie. I have a harness and shoes and I attended a class at the climbing gym, but I really want to get out on some real rock. If anyone is interested send me a pm.

Anyone know who sells these ropes in the Seattle area?