AlpineK

Isn't that your climbing forte?

I really think so.

Does it adjust to mood swings?

That's an argument for celibacy. Wrong, celibacy will not be tolerated in this debate. Try again. Sex with is right out too.

Here's an argument topic: Now this applies to both sexes so don't try and dodge out. Imagine that the only 2 people you could date were either Mike Layton or Ben Stanton. Who would you pick and why? ???????????????????????

You're quittin huh If I had a dollar for every time I heard that I'd have a nice new pair of skis... so pay up bitch

try here there are about 20 bazillion other threads on the route here too.

How about this kayaker

Get yourself a copy of this.

Exactly, and if you downsolo it you don't need a rope. Light = Fast = Speed = Safety.

Speaking of blinders It looks like from Mark's comment above there is at least a lack of agreement whether Kev is, "crafting," routes or gridbolting. From my perspective I'm not caught up in whether someone hangs or not to place a bolt. All I want to see is bolts are well placed and kept to a minimum. I know that's open to interpretation, but too often recently I've climbed routes where I was skipping at least every other bolt. Clearly those routes had too many bolts. You'd think people setting routes would be happy to hear that they don't have to work as hard or spend as much on bolts.

Don't worry, gay water sport season will be over soon.

Yeah, I've been there and it's good, but there hasn't been a pc there.

hit a nerve there did I? It's been about 28 years since I was a member of the mounties, but I know more than most folks about the current state of affairs, and basically things don't look to good for the organization. The membership trend is headed down. My personal opinion is that folks have to put up with enough bureaucratic bullshit in their regular lives. If you work for a big company or deal with government regulations like a small business owner you know what I mean. On days off most folks don't want to be part of another big organization with rules and regulations; they want to be free to do what they want with who they want. The mounties are a major part of history and they served a vital role in NW climbing, but they just aren't needed or wanted like they used to be.

That's a stupid argument. Let's say that you and your gf/wife decide to go camping at a nice spot you know about it's beautiful and quiet, but it isn't a developed camp ground. Well about an hour after you get there and set up camp a group of 10 rednecks show up and start drinking, swearing, playing death metal and riding around on dirt bikes. You can't tell them to be quiet because they will probably beat the shit out of you, you can't call the cops because it's 20 miles to the nearest pay phone and even if you could call them they couldn't do anything because you aren't in a developed camp ground. So you either have to put up with the bullshit or drive for hours to who knows where to find another place to camp. Basically the rednecks ruined your enjoyment of a nice spot. I've heard the argument that you don't have to clip those extra bolts but it's bullshit. Just the fact that those bolts are there wrecks the climb. I've done a number of slab routes where half the adventure of the climb is not knowing exactly where the route goes. If you leave a trail of bolts you take away part of the adventure. Climbing is dangerous, and that's part of the excitement of doing it, but you want to dumb it down so nobody breaks a nail.

I'd say it's volcano skiing season right now, and the volcanoes are a good introduction to skiing in the Cascades. On Rainier the Inter Glacier is good, and so is the Fryingpan Glacier. The south side of Baker is another good trip as are the SW chutes on Adams.

Everything you need to know about talking shit in the mountains and what to do about that cute goat with the soft fur standing at the base of the route.

It's like a big circle the further right you go the closer you get to the left.

With my American cell phone plan I had coverage in Whistler and at the head of the Pitt river (Qwest).

No it wasn't just you. I did wash my stinky pants and now they smell like daisies