rbw1966

Work within the system? Seems to me that sometimes its the very "system" itself thats the problem. However nebulous you care to define the system. I don't see any place where Chris condoned any kind of action that works outside of the system he is using to stop the expansion. Involving him in your views against monkeywrenching is mean-spirited. Tree-sitting is hardly an act of terrorism. I supported those folks and will continue to do so. I don't, however, support any violent acts that risk human life. How was the sunshine route Chris? I went up South side with a couple of newbies and was astounded by the numbers! At least 150 people. Crazy.

I ride every day. 6 miles every day along the sludgy willametter river. Fenders are gay.

Madrone's been closed for several years. The county hasn't been very cooperative in trying to find an alternative to make everyone happy. Please don't climb at Madrone (or if you do don't get caught); it'll just make access worse. Bug the access fund.

How about spotting her as though she was doing a boulder problem? Just a suggestion. I use this method when belyaing my wife. Get the belay ready, then she takes off as I spot her while pulling in slack with one hand. If she gets really sketched I spot her with both hands. Once she's out of reach I reel in the slack and she's protected. [ 05-17-2002, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: rbw1966 ]

Here's the word directly from BDEL (I asked the same question when I got my pack): The metal sliders on the compression straps are meant as a "lock" - they help prevent the buckle from slipping, especially when it is around an awkward thing like skis.

You've got an awesome workout. A buddy of mine who works for the portland fire dept bike commutes from Camas. I'd kill myself if I had to ride 205 every day.

I tend to not hang out in my muddy bike clothes so brown stains don't bother me, except when I'm gripped. I take the greenway across the sellwood bridge. Nicest commute of anyone I know. I've ridden home with a guy who rides out to LO. I assume he rides the shoulder of 43 which to me just seems heinous.

Why were you belaying her on a boulder? Speaking of Classic Crack (different thread), I was climbing this route at Broughton's which is pretty short and tops out on a ledge. There is an upper portion that continues the climb via a face and has about three bolts if memory serves. Most people just do the crak then rap off. Well, I got to the ledge and my belayer was chatting with another guy standing next to him AND smoking a cigarette. Not seeing the writing on the wall, I called out "climbing" and continued up the second part of the climb. When I clipped into the anchors and yelled "off belay" I looked down to see his incredulous face staring back at me and the rope lying on the ground. He took me off belay when I had yelled "climbing". He bought the beer that night. I since learned from other people that this guy is notorious for inattentive belaying. I haven't climbed with him since.

Sadly, there really isnt a lot of trad in the Portland area. Beacon is the best place but as Chris pointed out, its closed due to raptor nesting until July. Pick up a copy of Portland Rock Climbs for more detailed info. Tim Olson just re-issued it.

Hillbilly rapist. (Isn't that redundant?)

quote: Originally posted by trask: I think it's time for "Pube Club Orgys". Maybe then the bambolas will come out in force. Or Dick Pumpington ("just use dick").

What are you doing to that poor dog? Did the gimp break free?

WRT Eagle Creek: once you get past Tunnel Falls the crowds drop off. You can make a big loop (sort of) by connecting with the PCT at Wahtum Lake and then heading back north towards Cascade Locks. I did this as an overnighter many moons ago. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this one (maybte its too long?) but the Timberline Trail around Hood is another crowded classic. This time of year might not see a lot of folks on it though since there is probably still quite a bit of snow in various places. Now that I think about it, maybe thats why it has not been mentioned yet. D'oh! The whole gorge area is one big trail system. You can link together different segments to create your own loop. Good luck and have fun.

Carolyn-- Last time you were here in sunny portland you stayed across from the VERN?!?!?? Perchance you were staying with some friends of mine. I used to live right around the corner from the Vern. I don't recall it serving BUD though. I was strictly a Hamms drinker there. As for camping in the gorge: I've spent many nights along that area and never stayed in an established campground. I think some of the parks charge the wilderness pass fee (I know Eagle Creek does or did the last time I contemplated an overnighter there) to park there. Since I won't pay the fee I didn't park at any of the trailheads. There are literally hundreds of camping spots along the gorge trail system and you can easily avoid people if you practice common sense. I camped one time at the top of Dog Mountain to watch a meteor shower at a time when the only trail options were "difficult" and "most difficult." That case of beer got mighty heavy by the time we reached the top.

Tell him I want my pipe back. Biotch.

TG & WIll were on the east side of the mountain; airmoss (sp?) on the west. The wind usually hits Hood from the west thus the east side is in the lee. This probably explains the difference in snow conditions. I may be wrong on this but my (faulty) memory seems to tell me that the east side is usually more prone to avy danger then the west side. Sounds like everyone had a good time.

Aside from all the good advice already given, you can rent at REI, Oregon Mountain Community or The Mountain Shop. Be sure and take your boots with you so they can not only make sure your boots are ok with the crampons but also to size them correctly for you.

Will, you are now my new hero (for a day). Theakston's Old Peculiar is easily one of my most favorite beers.

Around these parts Will, its Rainier Verde or Rainier Rouge that is the industrial beer of choice. Next in line is Hamms, closely followed by PBR. Not that you can tell the difference at that point. Although I don't have a harley, nor do I ride a "hog" (squeal like a pig boy), I've downed many a pint of Hamms with fellows who do. Ride hogs that is. I seem to recall they weren't terribly particular about their beer. Cannabis was a whole 'nother story. My favorite quote from Hunter S. Thompson's "Hells Angels" was when he asked one of the Angels why they let homosexuals hang out with them at biker bars. The Angel is quoted as saying "Look, I don't care who sucks my dick, as long as it gets sucked." Somehow life just seems simpler on that side of the fence.

Is the Monkey still in biz?

I got an inflatable one I'm smuggling (snuggling?) in. Its called the "Love Ewe". Maybe I'll see you boys at Pro Row.

quote: Originally posted by Bug: We'll see you on our way down. We are three doing the Full Rib alpine style starting May 18. "Alpine style" is a relative term in Alaska. No double carries and no sled. Can you say hemeroid? We only did one double-carry on the West Butt (acclimitization carry from 14 to 16). We used one sled. That was a BAD idea. If I had it to do all over again. . . I guess you won't be taking a lot of beer with you. See ya in Talkeetna. Look for the pink "action" suit.

Which route are you doing on Foraker? You doing the entire west rib or the "riblet" (a.k.a upper west rib)?

quote: Originally posted by iain: If you're x-treme like Twight it replaces your 45 minute gu session and you're happy for it because you're suffering on salty snot. Suffering? Thats nutrition bro. What I want to know is if you eat a booger mid-climb, is it considered aid? If you are alpine climbing you let it freeze and use it for teeth cleaning later on.

quote: Originally posted by sk: Look it's SOCM, some scrusty old man!!!!! Um. . wouldn't that actually be "SCOM"? Rob "hukt un fonix"