Alex

'cause you're too easy

You mean the pictures of people toking up at the crag? That Alpinist magazine? Or the interesting original female nude artwork, that Alpinist magazine? Or the great pictures of early legends cragging at Squeemish? That Alpinist magazine? This issue was a dissappointment. Not a whole lot of alpine in there. To be honest, I've gotten alot more stoke out of the recent trip reports on cc.com than I got from Alpinist X.

Derek Hersey

Damn there is less snow there now than there was in June a few years ago

Baker and Shuksan, isnt that really over Baker Lake? It doesnt look like Skagit River to me...

Did you see if the East Couloir route was in?

Alan Kearny talks about it in his guidebook Jason. Charlie is still very much around, live and kicking (though sailing more than climbing these days) you can always ask him about it!

by the end of this summer Rainier will be revealed as the big brown turd it really is

Right, meant S sorry. S, N, whats the difference??

Thats a long-ass day, considering that group was already heading up the glacier at 9am!

We were the other party you hiked up the trail with on Saturday. We were wondering whether the wind kicked the crap out of you like it did to us, glad to hear you stuck it out and made it up!

gonna have to try that one!

Luff....thats a sailing term http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=luff

go Bob!

I thought it was spelled "assguard??"

Just the trail to it, the Katwalk still has several feet of snow.

No, Umptaneum is no where near Vantage. Its near Ellensburg, out of town going N down some backroads. goatboy, you are thinking of Fugs Falls. Alex

Sounds like a Jimmy Buffet song gone awry.

layton, when you're ready give me a call young Padwan, its already on...

Red is completely devoid of snow on SW buttress.

I'm not trying to trivialize your incident on the route Pax, but rockfall is hardly unique to Liberty Ridge or almost any other route on Rainier (I guess the Emmons doesnt suffer it), or in fact any steep route on a volcano (N side routes on Hood are prone to severe rockfall, for example). Even the DC can be a real shooting gallery. In my experience the rockfall can be almost entirely avoided on Lib Ridge by gaining the crest early off the Carbon, and there is little rockfall once above the gullys right above Thumb Rock, so I would not characterize this route by being particularly hazardous afa rockfall, that rock in your tent (!! ) notwithstanding. I guess when I think of routes where I think rockfall is a real issue, I think of Skyladder on Andromeda, N Face route on Athabasca, stuff like that: the barrage on these routes is pretty epic.

The probs with lib ridge have always been 1) the weather while you are on the mountain and.. 2) the Carbon

whats with the leashes??

I shouldnt have to explain this. But I will. Pope, like all of you rascals, understands this site and where to put various content very very well. You think he would have missed putting real Spray in Spray? Without your replies, do you REALLY think this qualifies as Spray? I don't. Anyone is welcome to post in this forum, and "Oh My God!" the content does not necessarily have to have "climbing" in it nor does it have to come from someone you esteemably respect to qualify for some soft of restraint on your parts. This content was not controversial, it was not mindless drivel about something non-climbing related, it was work safe, it might have been funny. Pope showed his own form of restraint and humor in writing this peice without bolt-war rhetoric, you need to recognize that, exercise your own brand of civility and move on. The couple of posts I deleted on this thread were as much moderation as I've done in months, so don't get all "heavy handed" on me; I'm just trying to refresh your collective memory that everyone should be free to express themselves without getting endlessly dogpiled.