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I've asked about this boot before, but has anyone tried or owns the La Sportiva Lhotse? I tried some on at Mountain Gear in Spovegas and they feel pretty damn sweet?

This is GREP! Caveman you are a sneaky bastard . Can I buy OfficeSpace, I love that movie. Ummmm yeeahhhh OK. GREP has spoken!

Tim's pal who is a ranger in yos said they lost their email, nps.gov and the whole shabang because of budget cuts or..... Alien hybrid supersoldiers drinking cloraminated water destroy the building housing the servers because Mulder......nevermind I'm a dork.

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How ya like my new one?

Just a reminder!

I don't get intimidated by many people (that includes head to head road bike combat) but pacific northwest ledgend Jim Blakely scared the crap out of me. Edog I hope you've been working out beyyottch!

quote: Originally posted by mikeadam: We all know the tip grab and Glen Plake rule over all that snowrider nonsense! Werd to that! Didn't Plake invent the screemen semen? quote: UNIX RULES! My favorite command is GREP

Yeah that is a fun commute! This morning I had some chick honking at me, I won't repeat what I yelled at her. Then going over the montlake bridge I had some dude run into me not watching where he was going (and dumbshit wasn't wearing a helmet), unfortunately he decided to run into the wrong guy and I pretty much flattened his ass cause i had no where to go. He's lucky he fell off his bike where he did or he would have gone into oncoming traffic. Bronco I guess the Tikka helps the girbel see where he's goin huh

Friday night my Tikka saved my ass again. Riding along L. Wa. Blvd in Seattle in the dark on my bike going home to Bellevue my trusty NiteRider goes out. I forgot to charge it the night before and I was hating life. Luckily I had my Tikka in my backpack and it provided just enough light for me to get home without getting hit by a car. It is so small there is no reason not to take it. Anyone have any similar stories?

Just to clarify, the text in my message is an email from Scott Silver. He periodically sends me updates and I post them because usually there is some good points and quality links to articles.

Perhaps no public lands in all of the United Stated have so deeply embracedthe free-market concept of recreation user fees (and pay-to-play recreation)than have those managed by the Texas State Park system. And no one person ismore responsible for the implementation of these fees in Texas, thanfree-marketeer Terry L. Anderson -- executive director of the PoliticalEconomy Research Center and currently policy consultant to former TexasGovernor, George W. Bush.(MUST READ!!! --- http://www.perc.org/conservation.pdf) So.... whereas the comparatively progressive State of California recentlyreduced its park entrance fees by 50% in what has proved to be a successfuleffort to encourage visitation, Texas seems committed to pursuing major rateINCREASES. Unfortunately, it will be the policies in Texas and not California thatPresident Bush will be using as his model for the management of federallands everywhere. Let the following Action Alert from the Lone Star Chapter of the Sierra Clubserve as a warning to ALL fee-demo opponents in every corner of America.What's coming to Texas State Parks today, will be coming to National Forestsand National Parks tomorrow --- --- UNLESS, of course, people become actively engaged in stopping this fromhappening! Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Sybert To: LONESTAR-ACTION@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORGSent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:54 PMSubject: Action Alert # 1 Texas Parks & Wildlife Proposes State Park Entrance & User Fees Increases Texas Parks & Wildlife is proposing to increase state park entrance and userfees because of inflation, increased operating costs, and the fact thatlegislature neglected to adequately fund state park operations once again.According to Parks & Wildlife the fee increase is necessary for the agencyto maintain the current level of service at state parks. The proposal would increase the upper levels of the fee ranges for statepark entrance, facility use, and activity fees. Individual state park feesare adjusted by the Parks & Wildlife Commission and staff annually and mustbe kept within the approved fee ranges. Local market place factors such asoperational cost recovery, seasonality, and user demographics, and demandsare used to determine individual state park fees. The current range for per person entry fees is between $.50 and $5.00. Theproposal would allow the commission to raise the ceiling on entrance,facility and activities fee within each of the 123 state parks. Following isa sample list of fee types and the proposed ranges for those fees (currentfee ceilings in parentheses): · Per person entry (24 hours): $.50 - $10 ($5)· Campsite, primitive: $4 - $20 ($12)· Campsite w/electricity: $9 - $29 ($23)· Campsite, sewer hook-up: $10 - $35 ($25)· Screened shelter: $15 - $60 ($30)· Matagorda Island ferry/adult: $10 - $25 ($15) While it is true that state parks are seriously under-funded and thatadditional money is need to maintain the current level of service the,Sierra Club has concerns about the size of the of the fee range increases.Parks & Wildlife must insure that the proposed fee range increases do notprice middle and lower income families out of the state parks. Park & Wildlife is currently accepting comments on the proposed state parkfee increases. Comments must be submitted by 5:00 PM on January 14.Comments can be sent by e-mail to mike.crevier@tpwd.state.tx.us or by phoneat (800) 792-1112, follow the menus. Comments can also be sent by regularmail: State Park FeesTexas Parks and Wildlife4200 Smith School RoadAustin, TX 78744 You can view the proposed rules for park fees at:http://204.65.105.13/texreg/archive/December142001/PROPOSED/31.NATURAL%20RESOURCES%20AND%20CONSERVATION.html#149 Points to Include in Your Comments 1. Parks & Wildlife must be careful not to increase fees to the point thatthey discourage use of state parks and related facilities. 2. Parks & Wildlife must be mindful of the impact that higher park feescould have on the state's middle and lower income families. 3. State park entrance fees and fees for basic facilities such as simplecampsites should be kept as close to current levels as possible. Fees formore elaborate facilities might be increased by a slightly greater amount tohelp cover the additional costs associated with those facilities. 4. Fee increases should be incremental to ensure adequate participation.Any fee range increases should be limited to significantly less than thefull proposed increases. Brian SybertNatural Resources DirectorLone Star Chapter, Sierra Club512/477-1729512/477-8526 [FAX]briansybert@earthlink.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Scott SilverWild Wilderness248 NW Wilmington Ave.Bend, OR 97701 phone: 541-385-5261e-mail: ssilver@wildwilderness.orgInternet: http://www.wildwilderness.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BEGIN QUOTE FROM HERITAGE FOUNDATION PUBLICATIONhttp://www.policyreview.com/mar97/townsq.html."Even the federal government is getting into the act. In 1996, Congresspassed legislation allowing some national park managers to raise entranceand user fees to more realistic levels. In so doing, Congress is followingthe lead of the Texas state parks, where, for an appropriate fee, visitorscan participate in a cattle drive, hike through the Chihuahua Desertwilderness and enjoy special nature tours. Through such strategies, theTexas Parks and Wildlife Department hopes to make all its state parksfinancially self-sustaining." FROM: Enviro-Capitalists: Doing Good While Doing Well by Terry L. Andersonand Donald R. Leal (Rowman & Littlefield, forthcoming spring 1997).

After two hours of getting worked in the climbing gym by my roommate and goin swimmin for an hour, nothing like coming home to drink lots of beer and work on the website. The fruits of my impared labor: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/index_beta.php None of the links on top work yet, just give a little time and more beer. So whatcha think foo? Good, bad, good thing I do cancer research and not web design? Spray me your thoughts. And now it's time for a nursary rhyme.Beer is good for you and me.Don't you see I gotta go pee.Training on the bike tomorrow in the rain with hangover.Get off your cell phone, you bitch in the Range Rover.This isn't really haiku.But who care cause I pity da foo.

Well that game sucked! Your right the BCS sucks, and it ruined the tradition of the Rose Bowl. Oregon should have been in that game, but thanks to east coast sports writters and some stupid computer program we got tonights disgrace. You've never been to a football game until you go to one in Lincoln, NE. Those people are absolutely football crazy.

YOUR GONNA DIE MIAMI!

WTF?????

This is a great thead. Will is right about the apature on a P&S, you want a fast camera for most climbing stuff not using a tripod. I'm not sure about the mount on the N65, I'm pretty sure the N80 is a steel mount. I'm getting an N80 very soon. Typically the heaviest part of an SLR setup is the lens. Now with the cheap Nikon lens, yes it is a cheaper quality lense but that is why it is cheap. A cheap lens uses cheap glass and not a lot of glass. As you move into a more expensive lenses the apature become faster which requires more glass in the lens, hence more weight. So if you want a light lens you going to have to go with a cheap Nikon, Sigma, or Tamron lens or go with a fixed lense like a 50mm Nikon which is pretty light, and the lens won't be very fast.

I think the camera depends purely on what you want to get out of your shots. If you just want regular prints to remember the occasion or show friends go get a $100 point and shoot and print film. They are lightweight and get the job done. If you want to blow your shots up to put up around your place or to give as gifts, then get an SLR, shoot with a good slide film, and bring a tripod. The newer SLRs can be fully manual or fully automatic so they really aren't a pain to shoot. The drawback is weight and $. If you want a light SLR setup here is my recommendation. A used Nikon N70 or a new N65, with a Nikon 28-80 G lens. The later will run you about $300 new and weighs a scant 21 ounces (light for an SLR setup). There is a rebate going on now until the end of the year on this setup. This is a great camera, even pros use this exact setup for lightweight trips. The Nikon light meter is far superior to anything point and shoot, you exposures will be good all the time. Normally you have to compensate 2 stops for snow but not with the Nikon's. I've not had one snow shot come out dark, and this is on slide film. For night stuff put it on the tripod, set the timer and let it do it's thing, the shots will come out great. If you want to get into photography you will quickly find yourself very limited with a point and shoot. Need more info fire me a PM.

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Hey everybody- Over the holiday I'm going to spend some time and give the website a much needed overhaul. What I need from ya'll is more pictures. I know I've been pretty bad at times getting these up on the front page but that will change, promise. I don't have any skiing pictures from anyone yet except one so some more would be great. Ice, rock, alpine, I can use them all. I'll be creating a gallery for all those that are submitted. So send them damn pictures in, and send em here pictures@cascadeclimbers.com . Try to keep them under 200k because we typically compress them down to under 20k, if not no big. Make sure you include picture credits and caption. If can also put your name or something in the file names so they are easier to keep track of. Thanks! Juanton

Dave link is actually here. There will be a pretty major site update over the holiday including a better links page with weather and the whole nine. [ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: jon ]

Does anyone have these? Looks like a killer glove. Impressions? Sanku so much!

Drul you forgot Terrence and Philip.