jon

Thanks for the conversation everyone. I don't think there is really a simple answer to this but luckily it's not really a problem at the moment. With the little research I've done we could most likely generate a significant amount of money from advertising (a site I know of with MUCH less traffic than us generates over $500/month), but you got to look at whether it is really necessary based on user response and the time involved in doing such a thing. For me it's not worth spending 10 odd hours a month dealing with advertisers on this site if it were only generating say $100. I'd much rather spend my time doing something like, god forbid, maybe actually going climbing. Now if it were easy than I'd say sure lets do it, pay for the site fees, maybe kick a little back to people committing lots of time, and then donate the rest to a good cause/s like the Access Fund or something along those lines. Setting up a nonprof could be an idea but at $1500 it's hardly worth it, you could set up a LLC for cheaper and actually make off better cause of tax breaks. The idea of users donating with some sort of recognition for doing so has been contemplated using something like PayPal but to be honest I hate asking people for money, not saying we wouldn't/couldn't do this. Uncle Sam wouldn't be a problem as long as you weren't pocketing anything (or at least that they could prove ). Whatever the solution is I think it would be nice to eventually find a way where there is enough people involved and money somehow generated that the site is self sufficient, or at least not riding completely on two people, because hiding in here is some serious beta and I think it would be pretty stupid for it to disappear. Anyways again this isn't a crisis or anything I thought it might make interesting conversation about something people probably seldom thing about.

watever u do stay off my praject I'm werkin on at peenukle it's rated 4.15b i just got to get the dieno down before i send that fuqer. if not i'll just break out the aid gear. hauling my krashpad up there is such a pane in da arse.

So I get like a shitload of spam because of this site, so I thought I it would be fun if everyone would share their favorite spam that is in their mailbox today. For some reason this one really caught my attention. Subject: Bad Arguments for Anal Sex.. #8. You want her to experience what it was like for you in prison ARE YOU SERIOUS!?

I arrived at about 10pm and things were just out of hand. Mattp was getting pretty roudy jumpin up on tables dancing like he was on acid dancing around a campfire. To The Top and Chris started playing baseball with the pool balls. Hikerwa told us his evil plan of selling local pud up in BC cause theirs sucks. I showed people my mad skillz at playing quarters.

I never really visited that site, sounds like the guy just got sick of running it. Since it has been kinda brought up let me throw this out there and you can answer from the perspective of a user or imaging yourself in an admins shoes. It's obvious that there are users that value this little place more than just a place to screw off at work, so I'm wondering what people think of how and what means to keep a site like this going that is fair to everyone, taking into consideration that running a site like this requires time, mula, and some patience?

So what your saying is you want both?

Whooops did I say that outloud????

Ok, we'll leave the going down to you.

quote: Originally posted by Steamer: By the way there is some truth to the origins of a Steamer. I bet your fav is the philly steamer?

So is there really an article or is this a total troll? Who in the hell would recommend this site anyways! GO M'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can start on either side of the dog tooth. Only a small rack is needed, I wouldn't bother bringing any cams. Go on a weekday and you might have the place to yourself. Check the Mounties site http://www.mountaineers.org if you are going on a weekend to avoid the clusterfuq. Have fun!

quote: Originally posted by Steamer: Or are my expectaions to high? No, you're just a hypocrite! http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=000539;p=2

I think it's pretty messed up that we've had pub clubs with 40 sum people the last couple times and then there is like 6 there the next time because someone has a fucking temper tantrum. I'll show up wherever it is as long as there isn't a lot of fighting. The Duchess is fun, it has three pool tables and this shuffleboard type deal, darts, lots of parking and close to the freeway.

I posted this expecting maybe one reply and I got five. Holy crap he says! So we don't need any more volunteers for this project, although we're always looking for people who would like to help with moderating a forum or are interested in writing a story or article. Here are some of the other ideas we have where help would be great. Books page- A page that lists and summerizes all of the guidebooks and online guides available for the Cascades and surrounding areas, including allowing authors to submit updates or corrections, or giving them the ability to ask for feedback/beta on to put in upcoming editions. Alpine, Rock, Volcano, Ski, etc pages- A section for each that includes user submitted stories or articles, links to other good resources in the subject, good books. Access page- Post access related news, articles, post workparty information. Anyways if you want to help in some way that would be great, we have lots of things we'd like to do, just hard to do with only two people. Most of this is just getting the content together, the html and formatting is easy for us to do. Thanks, Jon

quote: Originally posted by Dan Larson: quote:Originally posted by Son of Caveman: We can dance at a pube club if you want, Larson. I ain't skeer't of you. Marine Recon, SUCKA! Hell no!! Cavey is scary enough I don't need the whole family. Jon consistancy is the key... now Go Hey I got five merit badgets in Cub Scouts and went to state in pinewood derby I'll kick your butt yo. Dan you're desperately trying to say absolutely nothing quite loudly. I don't have a problem with you, I just have a problem when people bitch about us pulling a thread once in a while. If people have a problem with how we do things around here they should send us an email or a PM instead of slamming on us on our own hardwork and pride and joy. Aloha, Jon

quote: Originally posted by Dan Larson: Jon if you can't take the VERBAL feedback don't make the threats ....as subtle as they may be. I surely am not going to fight you I don't care who you are or who you think you want to be . To make a long story short . Just shut up So what provoked this Dan? You just bored? There are two kinds of feedback in my mind, one that is constuctive and one that malicious in intent. What was the point of this first post of this thread? Were you trying to make a point about the way we run this website or for some reason were you trying to make an ass out of someone who you've never met and no very little about. Actually you have no proof that I pulled the thread do you besides the fact I admitted to it. You wanna know why I pulled the thread, it was you language using words like 'cunt' so eliquently. There is a limit to what can be said here and you crossed it so deal with it. I'm sorry you are so upset over a thread with so much importance and such intelligent conversation. I don't threaten people Dan, I maybe can understand how you can interpreted what I said as a thread but what I was getting at is that I'll say in person what I say here, I'll tell you to your face that I don't give a shit what you think. I'm not hiding behind my keyboard and monitor, I hold myself accountable for what I say.

Yo mama has got so much hair under her arms it looks like she's got Don King in a headlock.

Looks like poor wittle Nacho couldn't control himself and had one too many Zimas.

Where are you Nacho?

Beer Down!!! Nacho you pussy it's 11pm and I am finally eating dinner.

Yeah at 5'1" and a 100 pounds I don't think I'd put up much of a fight against a former ranger.

Here is the links page as it exists now. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/links/newlink.php I haven't changed the header on the top so those intersite links won't work. I'd like to make this pretty comprehensive especially in the weather category so if you want to help let me know.