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we'll be going up monday... i'll let you know i'm basically expecting early summer condition, but i havent talked to anyone who's been up recently. either way, our plan is to be up and back below the bergshund before 8ish

dude... about 8, one fair, one kinda darker skinned? i left video for breakfast cracks, saw all your ropes, and bailed.. on the way back, i ran into these two little kids playing RIGHT on the cliff.. they asked me some questions about climbing then sprinted back toward the cliff. i just shook my head and carried on.

wow.. not sure where i stand on that. love to see somebody stick it to the man, but the bums are what makes RB such a shithole- doesn't seem like giving them more heroin, hooker, and olde english money is a step in the right direction. we better at least see some nicer tarp tents out there. the garbage bag lean-tos are creepy.

http://www.seattle.gov/parks/park_detail.asp?ID=399 it's definitely public property. that doesn't mean you have free access to it, but unless they explicitly prohibit climbing or have some kind of blanket statement in some kind of use policy, you weren't doing anything even close to illegal. the answer is knowable, though. find out who the regulating body is for the seattle parks department- probably city council- and see if you can get a straight answer as to who has authority over what. 'cause like i said, unless there's some specific rule, that cop has no more authority to tell you to get off the tower than he does to tell you to get off a sidewalk. that'd be like some cop coming up to the castle at Rocky Butte in portland and telling everyone to stop buildering. i would have been very tempted to builder up above taser ranger and tell him, "you want me, fatboy, come get me." but we all know effective "fighting the power" seems to be. too bad i'm not anywhere near seattle, or i'd offer to go wing-man you on it.

it's rained on both the individual, isolated, independent days we had scheduled out to do beacon SE corner... fuckin bullshit. i hear it's been pretty busy, even on the weekdays, so far this season...?

there's actually a section specifically for lost and found... scroll down the forum list

how the hell did this turn into a music thread?

sounds great- cant believe ive never heard of 'em before.. could have given them a lot of business over the years. i'm not seeing a website.. how do you contact/do business with them? do they have a storefront out of their house, or is it all mail/phone order?

it's not the music- it was the attitude. the music pretty much rocked, especially coming out of the audio-hell that was the 80s.

i was like "WTF does chuck D have to do with anything?" then i realized that i'd confused house of pain with public enemy... i'm so glad the 90s are over.

i basically have to get a boombox and jam 90s white rap on it at the crag now.

i assume it's available by prescription... but i really wouldn't worry about it for shasta unless someone in your team has had problems before. HACE at 14,000' isn't unheard of, but only because of the internet. it's extremely rare.

http://www.summitpost.org/against-all-hope-life-partnership-and-loss-on-mt-shasta/626323 gotta be prepared for the things you can't control.

what did you guys have for clothes/boots?

i fully intend to do shasta this winter, and i fully intend to go equipped for The Day After Tomorrow. you do not want to get stuck downclimbing in 60-100mph winds with zero visibility and rime ice building up all over you.

LAME. will watch for it. i've been buying/selling a lot of gear lately, and cringe when i see dicks selling well loved shit without even knowing what they have when you ask a simple question. you know most of the time that's a crackhead with somebody's plundered kit.

there seems to be a large base of spiteful, condescending, sullen 15 year olds on this website.. sort of makes it intolerable, a lot of the time.

a lot of emphasis is put on style these days... personally, i think this question is sort of like asking, "should you seek to place in the race, or should you simply seek to finish with a nice stride?" otherwise, it's just way too personal to answer with any definity. you should be challenging yourself- so if simply reaching the top is a huge challenge, then that's all that's important. if getting to the top is NOT a challenge, then throw in some style points and MAKE it one. otherwise, you're not climbing for yourself. you're just climbing for others to see you climbing.

One person didn't decide to chop the bolts. The community has spoken, the bolts are gone. Perhaps instead of beating a dead horse on an issue that was really up to the Smith locals to decide, we should be discussing what we as a climbing community can do to help our sister climber who was injured. one dude talking to a select, small handful of locals, who are probably agreeable types to begin with, is not "the community."

A) i wouldn't swing on that damn swing if you paid me- so quit personalizing B) what makes climbers more worthy of monkey face than rope-swingers? seems to me there's a BILLION rock routes out there, and only one place to rope swing. God did not put that rock there MORE for climbers than rope swingers.

i'd say there's less risk with this rope swing than there is getting hit by someone's line from above. at least you can see the entire wall before you swing- all that's required is that you take two seconds to verify with your own eyeballs that everyone and their gear has been cleared from the wall. this was bad timing, and poor situational awareness. the fact that uncountable people have swung from the swing before this in the several years it's been up is proof enough of the rarity of problems.

if he was a park ranger, it would have been a legitimate exercise of control. a freaking lame one, but park rangers can chop bolts and be asses and fun spoilers all they want. as it was, it was just some dude assuming authority over the rest of us. i DONT know ian, but i've got a dollar that says his primary motive was self-gratification. the other reasons were just rationalizations. you're not smarter or wiser than the rest of mankind, ian. dont presume to make decisions for us all.

there's a piece of paper tied to a tree above silver bullet that indicates the writer found a single climbing shoe, and left a WA phone number. i meant to write it down, but i did not- so if you lost your shoe, go look at the paper for the number. heh...

why? ETA - apparently you're a ranger at the park.. disregard.

sometimes.. depends on how much caffeine i've had.