Frankazoid

Well somebody should make a call over to Miguels in the RRG to let the climbers know they should take down the Hundreds of draws hanging from each crag. As far as im concerned, fixed draws go hand in hand with bolts, at sport crags that feature *high quality* bolted routes of a difficult grade. I personally love walking up to the motherlode cave, or to the driveby crag in the red and seeing draws hanging/ chalked holds. Gets me psyched to climb hard. Other destinations across the country are worthy too. Such as smith. Just my honest opinion. Keyword: opinion (so simmer down there, future "quoter")

Alright, I will admit that is funny. Taking it too serious to even see your joke. geez. Thanks, Steve.

Need my ass kicked? I simply stated that we obvoiusly see things differently. whats wrong about that? You want me to change my mind so bad, that you would see my ass kicked? You get into fist fights over verbal debates such as this? Then you sure sound like a Prick, Steve. This is a online forum. Were not at a crag, with someone stealing quickdraws in front of your face. And honestly, I really don't give a shit anymore. Sidenote from this, again, Happy 2011 climbing.

I simply disagree, soulreaper. I don't beleive many people here would go for my viewpoint, nor would I go for their's. So, I'll agree to disagree with others on this thread. It's like talking to a brick. (for you and me) Happy Climbing in 2011.

Checat, Nb Washington. World wall gets me by, when it's Not 20°.

Ouch. How'd your fingers hold up today? It was f'n cold!

I hope folks like you, Dave, get the chance to be saved by a firearm one day so you can see the value of an armed citizen. And pulling a gun out in this situation would be horrible. Lame to throw that in there.

Sorry but I have to ask... Do you really think he was being taught anything? how naive. He's obviously been around enough to know that people fix draws. Nobody forgot them, or couldnt get them down. he knew that. And he wasnt "Taught" a damn thing. Thats what is irratating to me about this. The ONLY lesson he learned is to be way more careful when going out to steal draws. So don't kid yourself. Did anybody notice if he was using a prussik to make things easier with all that swinging around while rappeling? If so that would help prove the fact that he was competent with the ways of climbing and what he was doing. Admirable effort C- This get an A+

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” i think Gandhi said this, and so did you sorta Yep thats pretty much exactly right. you got it.

Nope, I definetly would of had to hold back if I worked for the State Parks. But hopefully one of the other witnesses would have felt inclined. I personally don't have many freinds who would just stand around in a situation like that. I feel that its more than just a crime against Ian. It could be anybody elses draws at any other time. So, the other people seeing that (and probably understand that) just stand around? I have definetly expressed how I feel about it, and thats all I wanted to do. The video truly did bring out strong emotions in me. I'm definetly a hothead. I apoligize for being harsh towards you and Ian.

Sorry pink, i don't feel that makes me look bad at all. Yes I did post that. I do, as a human being, lose control. And that crag situation would be one of the times, most likely. Also, you should remember I never said I was Jesus. I just said I beleive in him.

And I must say... I really dont mean to insult you (nice person/talker), but it's more the fact that, well... honestly I just dont understand how you.. couldn't... didn't... ya know. Makes my blood boil. I have absolutely ZERO tolerance for SCUM. And it is quite clear that you do.

This enrages me. Damn pussy ass people in the northwest; talks to him like a child when he touches the ground. Dude- someone jacks your shit right in front of you, and you have a discussion with them of whats wrong and right? He should have gotten beat the f'k down the second he touched dirt. Call me old fashioned, but... Man up people! That jackass has a pretty distinctive look, and I definetly wouldnt mind giving him what he has coming if I were to run into him. I noticied the DPM comment saying " someone needs to help this guy have a climbing accident". That was a great opportunity.

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Well not too bad actually lately. I've been running the trail and stopping at the wall and it' hasn't been too cold.( the stone) if it's 45° and windy it does hurt a bit, but 45 with light or no wind is great. Wind really is key. Or lack there of. Getting out is just nice period. I'd rather go for a hike and hang dog a route cause my hands are cold than sit around the house. I can see how the climber coming from Seattle or further would want good climbing conditions though, given the investment of gas and time. Surprised that more people from north bend don't climb little si. Seems a lot of climbers come from much further away. Oh well.

Looking for a partner for tomorrow to climb routes like abo, rainy, and to start working on techno... I'm into climbing/catching on other routes as well. I would also like to find somebody who is psyched to get out there with me at least twice a week. Who's up?

Gotta say I like the Elwha crag. what did that steep part (middle) of the wall go at? did'nt it get bolted? Would love to see more pictures of that place. Hard to get any to pop up on the internet.

with the shitty forecast, low temps, wind and rain lately- I was definetly surprised to find a completely dry wall that was not bone chilling cold to the touch. All was good. Would have been a perfect climbing day out there. Nobody was there. The wall is still upright and has not fallen down. sidenote*** One bad thing though is that there was lots of glass on the ground in the parking lot from break-ins. Then (get this), my run only took me an hour or so, and in that time a car had arrived, got its back window smashed and shit stolen, and the owner still had not arrived back down from the trail... All in the short time I was there. Fucknuts. Dont leave ANYTHING in your car, and leave it unlocked when you park.

wow. I must say i'm shocked. Especially with the wind lately...

Lol... Well I've gotten on it once before so no worries. Thanks for the high detail beta, Ben. Looking foward to the next go when we get a 48-50° day. Also- beta descriptions fully warrant run-on sentences. -Frank

I dont climb ice... but i am intersted in where that graph came from...?

Ben, Since the subject of this thread was originally world wall- I have a beta question for you. What the hell is the short person beta for the first move into Techno from the anchor-clipping jug on Abo? If you know how to describe it that would be swell, and much appriciated. -Frank

Good stuff.. just checked out your blog, Ben. I see you met with Pete and Lidija! Pete was super fun to climb with. Lidija is just plain- hillarious! I was there for a month, and just missed ya I guess. Starting to wonder why I bought a plane ticket back to Seattle. Have a good holiday season!

Well yes thats right Ben. Not only would it be the next great thing- It already is. You see ive been a part of the FPPA (Feathers Parkour Park Association) for 2 years now, and along with the already extreme boulder hopping below the "climbing" (lame) area we have been developing a traverse of the multiple "towers" that makes up the "Feathers". Once completed it will incorporate flips, leaps and hops across the entire top of the Feathers. Lets just say the future holds great things.

I'd just recommend not climbing. All these walls we speak of are slowly but steadily eroding and crumbling down. Yes, even world wall. Hey I know I wouldn't want to be squashed by the unexpected event of, say, an entire wall collapsing on me at once. With that said- finding a new sport will be key. Parkour is a great challenging activity that enables you to still be in nature and have interactions with the stone, while signifigantly decreasing the risk of being squashed by any one particular rock since you are moving about so quickly from stone to stone. Combined with the lost art of jump roping (add multiple ropes to increase difficulty), you are still well on your way to reaching your extreme fitness goals.