chris54

After looking at the specs and the look of the product I wonder who their marketing this too. If this stuff is really designed by guides as they say. Im sure they would bach at some of these specs. I wondering if there target group is car camper that want to look cool.

dejavu -- I feel like your describing Rocky Butte.

I personally can't stand baggy clothing when I'm climbing. It drives me crazy. But i think that buying big is the way to go. I would find the brand you want with the fabric and features you want. Go try it on in the stores find what fits and shop around for the best price. Take your time fits a big deal to me. Although it took me a few trips to find the setup I like the best. If your new to climbing I wouldn't go crazy buying up gear you may change your mind like me after a couple trips.

I thought it was great! Wish it was an hour long.

What brand is it?

Stopped by the mountain shop today. They said they'll ship on April 14th and should be there by the 20th. I remember that the hoody and the pant for sure will be in the store. He also said something else that I don't remember. Sorry. Thought I would pass the info on.

Nice shirts off party in march! Great pics.

I was looking at the cover photo of the spring catalog and notice the man climbing is wearing a mummut shirt. With the mumut logo in full view. Thought it was kinda funny. A little airbrushing would help.

Put me on that list. I was just looking at their pants today and was thinking the same thing.

Pretty cool!

What about the ultra tall. Will BD or other company custom make a tent? I know this would probably cost a ton and add weight defeating the purpose of what you want. Just wondering if companies will do it.

I have a hard time paying any amount of money for Nikes, because they all suck. We all saw you waiting in line for the new glow in the dark nike's. Be honest with your self DPS.

I have a hard time paying 100$ bucks for a pair of Nike running shoes when Nike makes a 50$ shoe that works just as good. I get the buy cheap buy used. But at some point your paying for marketing and not performance. I agree that arcteryx stuff fits great, but mountain hard wear,first ascent soon copy the design for much cheaper. So I think buying the best in some cases is being taken for a little money. Although if you have the time to find screaming used deals. Why not have the latest and greatest.

Sounds like Patagonia's the shit! Do you guys think arcteryx and other companies that went over seas with their manufacturing lost quality in their products? Is Canadian made really better than chinese made? Im just a weekend climber that gets out about once a month. I haven't wore to many things out and honestly can't see a difference. I have these discussions climbing with buddies and I'm wondering what some of the masses think.

I was talking with a buddy about brands of clothing and gear. He's a big spender when it comes to gear and I typically by whats mid range and on sale. (aka. TNF) Do you guys think arcteryx, Patagonia, and other high end brands are really that much better? I know there's a lot of factors involved fit, durability ect.. But for your weekend climber is it worth the money or is it just wanting the so called best and looking the coolest.

This thread might help. Saw a couple places don't know anything about them though. Good luck. http://www.climbeasterncanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5054

+1 Very sad my thoughts go out to everyone. Sobo you make a great point.

I like bitching about spelling. NICE!

So true. How can you not follow that photo.

I can't help but feel that there's a group of you that are ban wagon bitchers. I've watched this in thread after thread. One guy post something then someone finds a way that it goes against there so called climbing code. Then BOOM! Open the flood gates to the bitch fest. Your threads are like my people magazine, I just get hooked.

All the politics aside it looks pretty fun! If it had a good anchor setup I think I would giver a go.

http://www.kptv.com/story/16947105/climber-died-of-head-trauma Not much detail.

I just read that his passing was due to a head injury. Does anyone know if he was wearing a helmet? This is very sad and my thoughts go out to friends and family.

Can you make cracks out of real rock? I always see those decretive stones in fountains that look like they were once part of a big dihedral formation. Ive seen some that are twenty feet high. If you cut them flat and stacked them couldn't you get a pretty good crack. You would have to be selective about matching them up. This makes sense in my head but might not on paper. Any thoughts.

I'm not a fan of that website much either. Has the fee always been 15$ a person with a 9$ website fee. I thought it was cheaper last I check.