LostCamKenny

What is missing Ivan - is the tourists, dogs and mega-roped teams. Go get it. ivan, you're being called out... so it seems.

just so we're clear, how many times this past season ( ) did you solo ALL of young warriors? I know i roped up with you for at least one climb on it...

dude, it's cragging, there's no really supposed to be huge commitments at any rate, having the option to single rope rap off from the top of pithc 2 is good, b/c that keeps people from rapping off the tree on tree-ledge. were you born grown up ivan or did you have to progress like the rest of us? it's for practice, dood...

hey todd, that tent looks heavy... how was it packing it up the hill for 3 hours?

jim doesn't want the route to change by removing and replacign bolts or any fixed gear because it would change the nature of the route. the bolt that denalidave is speaking of (the one below the butthole) was a directional bolt to begin with. yeah, you wouldn't want to fall there, but the only reason it was there was to keep the rope running correctly. the nature of the route is still intact with joe's bolt replacement. however, if one has a 70 meter rope, there is no commitment since there is that bolted rap anchor 20 feet to the right of the first belay. if it was up to me i'd vote to have that thing removed... but whatever, i guess.

dave and i did climb those pitches this past thursday and everything seemed to be in the correct places - albeit a bit newer and perhaps a bit more stout looking... as long as the bolts that were replaced were in the same locations as the ones before then the route doesn't change that much...

...because it takes me away from the foul, inhospitable realities of this life and puts me into one where bills, and bosses, and co-workers do not exist! it is an escape... it is freedom... it is peace like the world will never know! and yeah, why does she don that bikini?

5.7- in the 50mph gusts

the man changed the way a generation thought of history... an amazing intellectual! rest easy old boy!

i'm sure that jim was stoned when he said lots of things.

My guess would be probably not, as Julian the ranger last year left and he was the one that brought that on. But I would not be at all surpised if it happens again. who is the current ranger?

it seems better than under the bottom.

bozeman, maybe?

this will do for skiing and snowboarding what vertical limit did for climbing.

if it does it will really put a damper on my plan to scare the sheeeet out of myself on bubba's again. lets just hope that the falcons at smiff will nest somewhere on mendenhall ridge - barely anyone goes over there anyway...

I can tell from the above who was actually at the show! hahahahha! i hate the show. buybuybuy!!!!

OR Show = really cool shit = really inflated prices for really cool shit i can't afford - or need = corporations that don't give a rats ass if you actually live or die just as long as you live or die with their gear!

different music - this soundtrack was TERRIBLE! might as well have been the spice girls! even the climbing wasn't enough to keep me watching with that squawk coming out of my computer speakers!

the double vestibule thing on some of those models looks really cool!

the value of a vestibule with enuf space to both cook and store yer shit in can't be understated. this is an rei mountian 2 and it is AWESOME, albeit a little heavy. but if you are wanting the best protection from whatever you may see in the mountains round the NW then it seems like the type of tent - whether 3 or 4 season - matters less than the way you anchor it to withstand wind and the weight of snow, though solid wall tents as opposed to mesh wall will hold in more heat. generally, the more poles yer shelter has the more durable it will be when you get a good dumping of snow on top of it. and anchoring it properly is key, too. last time my tent was up it took 3 inches of snow during our final night on the mountain... i've also had good luck with the rei taj 3, which is a 3 season tent i guess. my feeling is that if you are a two person team sharing the tent then you want a two person tent because a three person tent is too big and thus hard to make the best use of the combined body heat of you and yer partner. leave yer gear outside in the vestibule and bring a candle to help create a bit more heat: just don't go to sleep without blowing it out!

didn't jim bridwell say that the first rule of climbing was that there are no rules?

sorry everyone to get off the topic of insurance policies since that seems to be the important part of this thread taylor, did you fill out a police report? that would be the first step. then start checking any consignment shops where climbing gear might be resold. check on craigslist for "unusual" posts wanting to sell gear. check ebay... shops might work with you if you have the backing of a police investigation, but it is a longshot. it may be futile, but any hope is better than no hope... good luck and hope you are able to recover!

i bet this is reassuring for your partner(s) to know...

justin - learn everything you can from the mazamas - they are an excellent resource for nearly everything you want to do in the climbing world and you will meet others in your same situation, without a doubt. its good that you have a background in backpacking - i started the same way, as did many, many others. don't strive to be an alpine climber, or a trad climber, or an ice climber, or a sport climber... learn all you can about everything and just be a CLIMBER. Period. do it all and enjoy every minute of it! its easy to get sucked into the gyms and the whole gym scene, but use them for what they are really good for - exercise - and get outside for the real thing. after a while pulling plastic will just not feel as satisfying, but get what you can from them. a great guide - if you can still find it - is Oregon High by Jeff Thomas... its far better that that recockulous falcon guide about the cascade volcanoes (at least as far as hood is considered - this guide has the white river glacier labeled as the white salmon glacier, which is WRONG!). be safe and hope to see you at beacon someday!