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Utilizing trails or trail markers to minimize impact is always a wise choice it seems to me. Yosemite is an example of a area where they do not mark climbers trails well and it has had a detrimental effect in many areas.

I agree that the first ascent info should be in the guidebook when available. Including the history and route background gives allot of the feel and character of the area. Especially if its going to be the premier guidebook of the area. Maybe we should plead the case with Tim and see if we can get first ascent history included. Come on Tim if you're reading this, include first ascent and route history in the new guide please!!!

Holy snikies Bill, are you sure your friend did 2 El Cap routes in a day? That sounds really tiring. I just emailed Tim and demanded he name it The Girl with the Golden Nipples & Brass Balls Crag. That should command some respect and everything could be R/X rated! Also, what the heck is a homily Bill? Are you gay bashing or just happy to see us? DenaliDave, isn't it time you healed up and got back out? How long can a guy go on a layoff after hurting himself running down the trail? What was the hurry anyway, a beer run? Ya got to come up with something better then that. I'm using the old "I took a 50 footer in Yosemite so thats why I'm doing the SE Corner" excuse, as a explanation for my lameness lately. Works everytime and no one flips me any shit. In fact my old war wound is starting to act up now....this cold weather and all...

Do you really think people will get the two places confused Joe and instead of turning off at North Bend, will drive 4 hours down to the Gorge, and then realize...Oh shit, its the OTHER Farside!

Mountain Gear has them in their new catalog.

Hey Justin~ fun place when its not windy there. They are short climbs, like 35 feet. Bring a pair of long handled pruners if you go for the poison oak at the base of the climbs.

Poison oak, rattlesnakes, ticks, splitter cracks, and stemboxes.

If its extra traffic the cliff needs to keep the moss down, then why not name it something like "The Girl with the Golden Nipples Crag" or some such? They would come from far and wide, and I bet Jim would have a hard time saying no to that! One vote from me for Nipples!

What the *&^&$* has Kenny done now?

Thats a Whillans harness you got on there Sobo, nice!

we got on dis, Rick getting all tone loc on us.

Yeah, toss the Mythos and get a pair of La Sportiva TC Pros. They are like Miuras on steroids, comfortable all day, and they will stretch a little.

You will see the one big rock in the trail since we left it there past past Cruising, and the crater a few feet away also in the trail. The smaller rocks that were coming down in the trees are over by Dods. Saturday a bunch came down and Sunday a few more. Jim said it may be people throwing rocks off the top or it could be the rain knocking them down, or combo of both.

Krasavitsa!

Sounds good, its supposed to rain all week.

Yep, it was a great day for aid climbing. Not cold at all like yesterday, about 10 degrees warmer it seemed. Also not to wet, and west winds so it was windy as hell in the parking lot but peaceful and calm at the base.

Yep, I believe you are correct Joe. Took out the Loweballs today but ending up not use them. If you have Lowballs Joe, you might want to try cinching your harness a little tighter, it seems to help me when I have that problem. Lots of rocks coming down in the trees last few days, maybe due to the rain. There is a new big one on the trail with adjacent impact crater, and at least 6-7 smaller missiles came down in the woods last two days while we were there. On Friday a big one came whistling down the corner area.

Day 3 in a row at Beacon, where you guys been? Sure the last 2 have been aid climbing in the mist but nothing wrong with that, righteous fun! Jim was out there today braving the weather with us and he told me that the main name of the crag is The Far Side but the part of the area where the garbage used to get thrown off the top is called The Drop Zone. That seemed to make sense to me, but I don't know Jack S. Also, that rope just hanging there on Pipeline was to tempting, so I had to jug it in the rain for a workout after we aided Free For Some. If its your rope Ivan, thank you sir.

Its a old crack variation, once the rain washs it a little I'll have to give it a twirl.

Drop Zone sounds like a place you go to pinch one off. Which reminds me, I just had my coffee and feel like a grumpy...where is this crag now?

Yeah! Nice route, nice send!

Maybe a vote by all the people that developed the place might be the answer? Make a list and ask each one. I wouldn't be one of them, and was just flipping ya shit Kevbone.

A huge kick in the balls? That doesn't sound good, but I guess its just an analogy so are you saying you'd rather kick Jim in the balls instead....harsh! Is this the Jim you are talking about? The Dude abides!

my first trip to the Valley, 1978.