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Why make an exception for Gitmo? It's the most egregious violation of civil liberties the Bush administration commited; torture, evidence gained under torture addmissable, lack of legal representation, habeus corpus stripped, violation of federal statutes treaty law..... It is arguably the number one terrorist recruiting PR tool as well. If you feel strongly about civil liberties, you're a member of the wrong party. The GOP gave that up as an agenda item (except the 2nd Amendment of course) under Nixon and they've been trashing them ever since. If you'd like to reconstitute the party of Goldwater/Eisenhower, I'm all for it, but good luck: ain't gonna happen any time soon. Your party's going completely in the opposite direction, and pretty much off a cliff. Two party system? Yeah, whatever. If only the world were.... Not the problem. Any car in the driveway that runs will get you there, and the two party system may not run well, but it runs. The problem is with the core values, or lack thereof, of American voters. The party system is just the vehicle; no better or worse than any other democracy's as far as I can tell. Now, about that Obama question....

No, I'm not just refering to the PATRIOT ACT, one of the least (but still) damaging federal erosions to civil liberties (notice I've used the term 'federal', not 'Bush', something your conveniently filtered out). I'm referring to Gitmo, torture, rendition, explicit denial of FOIA requests through a new policy of government secrecy under the phony guise of national security, illegal spying on Americans, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 which explicitly through habeus corpus and the ban against evidence gained under torture in the trash, the politization of the DOJ, and on and on and on.... Now, you can proceed to tell us all how Obama intends to rape the Bill of Rights. Use his actual actions and statements, please. Spare us the conjecture.

What, specifically, are you refering to in the international relations front? Or do you even know? As for back taxes, they CAN be a big deal, but aren't always. And your logic about Cheney, which goes something like Well, he fucked up the entire world and America's reputation in it, but, hey, he never once killed an innocent kitten. It's, well, a prime example of the clarity of thought we've come to expect from you, Bill.

Oh, and BTW, owing back taxes (if in fact, your facts are even remotely correct) isn't a crime (as you stated it was) unless the payer is charged with evasion. Daschle bowed out on his own soooo....the process didn't work? OK, whatever. I guess he had to be publicly garroted for certain people to be satisfied. Goodbye credibility round deux.

We did not give the feds anything....they took our civil liberties ......and it wont stop there.....more to come. Some among us gave them away by voting for totalitarians rather than for those who respect liberty.

That Obama's team vetted and rejected these candidates for their behavior seems to support, rather than refute, an image of competence and integrity. If you must believe that all the dirty laundry was known prior to this selection and vetting process then, by all means, believe what you must. Goodbye credibility.

Givler's Dome or Castle Rock come to mind.

Proof positive that money really can't buy you love.

bimini twist

No worries. I sold it to a teen who's just getting into the sport.

Op Ed pages are just that: opinions. FOX is exactly the same. It's simply not a news outlet; it's an Op Ed outlet. Essentially, it's a well funded blog. It's veracity and ethics are so poor that it's a complete waste of time for anyone who actually wants decent information. For people who want to be entertained by being fed what they already believe, FOX is great. The premise of the article, poorly written and innaccurate as it is, seems to be to say "Hey, Obama broke some promises, so he sucks". Gross innaccuracies in the claims aside, there is no weighting given to the magnitude of the promise or whether it was politically necessary as part of getting the job done. From a different perspective, Obama's kept virtually all of his civil rights promises; something I was very concerned about. On time and on budget. Impressive. I'm not fully behind his whole program, but his actions in the ethical area get high marks from me. Oh, and Rush's modus operandi when confronted with what he's said is to claim that it's been somehow taken out of context. Coulter and O'Reilly both employ the same trick. It's bullshit, of course, but it gets them through the interview process; something they can't avoid given their media exposure.

Kids always get a kick out of that slide.

Have ya ever noticed how the dumbest fucks in the schoolyard are always first on the scene to give the new kid advice?

I've got an old style, thin cam camalot that's caught my fat ass a couple of times. Did it even catch Ivan's huge ass once? Anybody wanna buy it?

Welcome to a world managed by corporations. "Hey, gang, is Friday Hawaiian shirt day?" Super fun!

It's a good thing we gave the feds all those intrusive powers during the Bush years. Now there's a new law in town, with a different agenda. Good luck hiding your guns.

Pretty much like every thread I uselessly post in.

I didn't read this thread.

Don't be stupid! Carry a first aid kit!

Yeah, STFU Kevbone. The cool kids've all seen that one, like, a century ago.

Does it count as immigration if one was shat out by a great beast, as we were, Pink?

suk it, metalhead. I won't ask how you feel about Imogen Heap.

If KKK's jokes were any worse he'd be me. THAT would be harsh.

her voice floats like a pretty bird on a gentle breeze

I heard your mom received alot of cash payments, too.