Raindawg

I'D RATHER SEE NO CLIMBING AT ALL. Top-rope it, place your ugly bolt on lead if you can ethically and environmentally justify it, otherwise....just leave it alone. Some people will see you as progressive and might even admire you in the future, because when the pendulum swings, and it will, "sport-climbing" will be condemned as the Dark-Age, selfish, self-deluding, environmental travesty that it is. P.S...your comment above about crack-climbing before sport-"climbing" is completely ridiculous. Here's something "profound" I tell some of my history students: "the world did not begin the day you were born". Think about it. Learn a little climbing/mountaineering history (especially pre-1980)and you will see that it's was alive and vibrant long before "sport-climbing" somehow became acceptable in the U.S.

I think there are a couple of routes on it going back at least 30 years, but it has a reputation as being really "sandy" sandstone, plus there's a highway running directly beneath it. I think one of the routes was named "George Wallace". ???? Huh????What's that mean?????

And the real winner should have been: Klimbers4Kerry! Klimbin' Big Walls To Spread Da Troof! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

And the sign in front advertised "hourly rates". In it's latter days, they had a bunch of mannequins on the roof wearing camoflage...never knew what that was about....maybe some paint-ball thang.

THE HERE'S THE MANTAGE! (Go ahead....click on it!)

Me and m'buddy "pope" didn't show up because: a) we don't feel welcome with our "sport-climbing is an embarrassment, charade and enviromental travesty" attitude; b) we were in Leavenworth LAST WEEKEND without the crowds generated by such events; c) instead, we both decided to train our tails off locally and afterwards drank some outstanding micro-suds without having to drive 3 hours to watch other folks drink, beta-mime their new and EXCITING! bouldering moves. and brag about their latest rap-drilled rape of Icicle Canyon. d) although I'm (almost) sure there were some very cool people there as well (Timmay?). Maybe next year when you invite us to do a rockin' slide-show, we'll appear and dazzle you all with "Dwayner 'n Pope's Kings of Trad Tour". Live from Leavenworth! Rope-Up 2007:

LOLERZ, aren't you a college professor? Idiot. Correction to "you're" noted and changed...[i had a beer in my hand at the time]...but you're still an idiot.

Gore should have received the Nobel Award for Hysterical Global Alarmism. It's been known for many decades that global warming has been taking place for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. Perhaps we have accelerated it, but it ain't a new story. Sea levels have been rising for at least 10,000 years (when they were 300 feet lower). Get used to it. Wait around a few more thousands years and you might see it go in reverse.

regan was /is an actor. gorbachev ended the cold war. and he did because of his buddhist spiritual beliefs. You're an idiot. It's spelled Reagan...and his previous profession isn't the point. (And he is, sadly, a "was", since 2004). He was the last American president who was a leader and that one could be proud of. Much of the world respected him. Big Bush couldn't compare, Billy Clinton was a chameleon who couldn't keep his zipper closed (read the Starr report and tell me how proud you are of that man), and the present inarticulate occupant of the White House has proved to be a bit of a disappointment. I grew up hiding under a school desk every Friday or so while the horrifying scream of air-raid sirens prepped us for a possible nuclear attack from the Soviet Union. Maybe you're too young to have experienced that. Reagan essentially brought them down. And Nixon was no foreign policy slacker either. He wisely set the foundation for what was a realistic engagement with the other powers of the world. Three cheers for Ronald Reagan! :brew: He did make the world safer until it was botched by his successors. And a couple more for Mr. Nixon. :brew:

SCAN ON!

"Tommy! Over here! No, look! I'm over here....it's me, Kevbone...I'm the guy at the slideshow who was so excited to shake your hand that I peed my pants and puked on your shoes...at the same time! Over here!" KEEP WAITIN'! (Bring flowers and a tub of yogurt next time.)

Hey groupie...you're probably waiting by the mailbox in eager anticipation of the arrival of your new and exciting Rock and Climb Ragazine, anxious to eagerly devour the latest news about "Tommy", "Beth", "Chris", "lynn" and the whole fabulous gang!!! (Were you the guy hanging outside the outhouse door in Camp 4 hoping to get an autograph?)Anybody know Tommy's Big-Wall breakfast secrets??? stay tuned! Shouldn't this topic really be about how many times one can use the "term", "off-the hook"?

Maybe it has something to do with this: I bet you do!

I'm sure they don't nor do I care if they do. If you don't want opinions, why do you even have this site? Would you prefer that we all agree on everything like good little stormtroopers? I offered an alternate opinion and you don't like it. Hey Dr. Phil Jr, amateur psychoanalyst...keep your day job. Read the above regarding alternate opinions. P.S. You don't know what you're talking about.

Now who is the one making the “knee jerking” comments? Hey Jack-Donkey....it's my opinion, I'm entitled to it....it's not the same as spewing out some idiotic cliché STATED AS A FACT like "all politicians are dishonest". In fact, I'm making a point here that such stunts on The Cap'n can be viewed as circus-like, as Everest has become. How about some blind-folds next time? Maybe climb Da Nose in boxing gloves and roller skates. Me? I'd like to see them German guys climbing with underwear over there heads...it would be an EXCITING NEW RECORD! and they wouldn't even have to go particularly fast.

Dude...you are really full of knee-jerk comments. You don't know that. Some probably are, some probably aren't. It's your opinion....that you can know. You don't know that. You got special insider information and a personal rapport with the White House staff? You don't? Then it's just another opinion presented as a fact. So how about them Clinton cigars? Ever smoke one?

Don't let Billy-Bob off the hook. He was an embarassment. If you or I were messing around with an intern, we'd probably lose our jobs. If you and I lied to a grand jury, we'd probably go to jail. Get out your old, soiled copy of the Starr Report and find out what he was up to with cigars etc. in the Oval Office...apparently didn't even know the girl's name until after several encounters...kind of like meeting an anonymous hook-up in a public restroom, except it was in the White House. Man couldn't keep his pants zipped for 8 years, not counting the alleged activities while governor. BILL CLINTON LOVES CIGARS! I don't think we need any more Clinton's or Bush's in the White House. Make it a law....ban them!

No this is an outrage!

Let's start now!

It does appear to be a spray-like topic but my response is nonetheless authentic...I don't like dogs in the wilderness or in climbing areas. Would I mind removing my pictures? Yes, I would mind, and I certainly wouldn't do it at your request. Someday in the highly unlikely event that your dream-fantasy of being a cc.com moderator is fulfilled, you can remove what you like...and that's the day participation on this site will dwindle. Now go home and shave your poodle.

Keep your ugly poodles and other sniffing, crapping, biting, growling, spraying pet canines at home. If your dog annoys me when I'm enjoying the outdoors, there is a good chance that I will throw a spear at it and then eat the mutt in front of you...raw or cooked, depending on whether I already have a fire going or am in the mood to build one. Here's your dog. Keep him away from me: See these people? They've got their dogs on leashes somewhere other than the wilderness: "Good Dog!!! Stay home!!!"

Rather crude and historically and anatomically inaccurate. Seems like this attempt at humor might be the result of a little "George Washington Envy".

Gosh E did you ever think that private message would become so famous? It is an instant classic. Maybe you should write more? Thanks, Wayne. Much appreciated. I've never quite come back from meeting this guy in the airport last year: My nose still itches!