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That is quite a spree, nice job!

P2 of McTech Arete. The most strikingly beautiful line I've ever climbed. I did it a couple months after leading my first 5.10a and I remember it as one of the hardest leads I've ever done. I think I didn't hang, but don't quote me on that...

That is awesome.

If you can't reach it, you can't retreive it. Routes where this is the standard approach will therefore usually have a piece fixed there. If you're just cleaning a traverse, hopefully your follower left the pieces close enough together that you can clean each one. You can also re-aid a section, if you have the gear for it.

w00t!

I don't know nothin' about the smoke, but climb Nutcracker!

The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. Worst analogy ever.

Yeah, I too would be interested in knowing exactly what we're talking about. Where is Free At Last?

Now that the rock has fallen, shouldn't it be less worrying?

Fox, I am not talking about that, although we had a look at it on the way down. Looks good, and a party we met up there had just come off it and gave it the thumbs-up. Peter is right, it's the wide crack in the left side of the bay, up the right side of which goes Rattletale P3. Vertical to slightly overhanging, and probably 9" wide, not quite wide enough to get my hip in, but narrow enough for heel-toe most of the way and good chicken-winging (if there is such a thing). Oh and dirty and mossy, although less so today than yesterday. Is that Chasin' the Lizard? I was guessing it would be an Index 5.10a OW but I don't know me offwidths so good.

I toproped the offwidth to the left of P3 Rattletale last night and got my ass pretty well kicked. Does anybody know what this is called or rated? Is it in Sky Valley Rock?

I always wonder how gear gets "forgotten" especially in the middle of a pitch.

That doesn't work. I don't know the answer.

Listen, fuckers. Generally, the directive "don't be a dick when it's not necessary" is not very controversial. What do you gain by being angry and negative toward everyone? Here the response is, "get a thicker skin!" I don't advocate censorship and I think people should be able to act however they want here. I can take shit-talking just fine and I hate oversensitivity. All the same, you get what you give. This website generally gets the dregs. Recognize that as a sprayer, you have an impact on this.

Where'd you come up with this gem of knowledge? Most good climbers are out climbing.... not sitting in front of a keyboard. A messageboard populated by good climbers would be mostly blank then die because there's nothing posted. you sound like one of those telemarktips douchebags who really just wants to read a blog and fellate someone in the comments section You think most good climbers climb SO MUCH that they never go on the internet? I bet most of the comments in here happen when posters are at work, slacking off. Your argument does not work.

How can you tell the difference between a TDO5 16G and a TDO5 18G without taking the housing apart?

This is the point. Mean-spirited angry people are fostering the culture here that they want. Don't wonder why many good climbers think this place is a joke. Don't wonder about the lack of content. This site does not live up to it's potential and this is the reason. That assholish behavior is relegated to a sub-forum does not change the fact that it part of the board, and part of the culture of the board. This could be a good place to talk about non-climbing-related stuff with people who are climbers. Instead, anything that isn't climbing-related is categorized "spray". In "spray" you are allowed to be a dick. Some posters take great joy in it. I think we'd be better off with a "bickering" corner where kevbone, KKK, raindawg and tvash could all go at it without bringing the rest of us down.

I saw a fixed line on it a while ago and had heard someone cleaned it. So what is the "problem"?

I agree. This forum is largely the same five people bitching back and forth about the same things over and over, and it's pretty stupid. I may not be completely innocent, but I try to keep it constructive most of the time. I really appreciate those who write trip reports, provide good advice, and talk about climbing.

It's been a while since I did it, but I remember Pete Lake to Spectacle Lake being pretty money. Pete Lake is a short hike, 4 miles in, and flat. You can spend the night there, then the next day go on to Spectacle Lake which I think is another 7 miles. On the third day the hike out would be 11 miles, but pretty easy. More info says the vertical gain is 1550 feet (in 18.5 miles, which isn't quite in agreement).

I remember that too, in hindsight I don't know why any of us bought the "mandatory tyrolean traverse" business.

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KEVBONE! Probably not. There is a rap route. Look at the topo!!

If I bring a 60 meter rope... and your route has 30 meter pitches... I RAP YOUR ROUTE.

Given how often I see people on the UTW who aren't climbing Green Drag-on or Town Crier or Davis-Holland, I think this is unlikely to be a problem. Besides, there are many routes where rapping the route is the standard descent.