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People you don't even know?? How many people that require assistance anywhere do YOU know personally? In this case, it's called the "304th Air Rescue Squadron." It's part of the Department of Defense. "RESCUE." What's their mission if it's not to rescue people whether it be soldiers or civilians? Charge everyone for being rescued?? Or just the minute percentage of climbers who may need it? Or better, who YOU think should be charged??

Don't forget the

Yeah!! Well done fellas.

And then some will go to discussion boards, drag victims through the mud and desecrate their memories. That says a lot for the 'community.' I doubt such climbers, if that's even what they can honestly call themselves, have ever done anything for any climber, much less signed up for SAR. Stop flattering yourselves. I wasn't trying to flatter anyone. I was just speaking of myself and the people I have gotten to know and have climbed with over the last 32 years. That's all. But thanks.

Truth. I'm down with everything...except for the first sentence. Specifically, "...elitest pursuit..." Unless I'm misunderstanding the context with which 'elitest' is used, I tend to think that anyone can pursue this...if they have the cojones.

I don't.

Here's a link to Barbara Walter's "e-mail." They don't have one for Rosie. But since she's the producer, she needs to feel some love. I'm not a violent person, but because so many people watch that inane show, Rosie needs to be called out and verbally popped in the fucking mouth.

Do tell. I have some free time this afternoon.

One more time...

Now this is a worthwhile stand alone topic. Thanks for getting it started.

Thanks Timmy! That was indeed a great diversion.

Good lyrics: "...with a premoistend dumper" "...and a pee-pee that's snappin'"

I think he has definitely found a way to do that this week. Thanks cluck!

Just in time to avoid that tree.

Mention it one more time. Perhaps you'll get an answer. what more do they want? i already told them we stole the best parts of WA I couldn't agree more.

Mention it one more time. Perhaps you'll get an answer.

Or turn it into a 2-day (or more) outting. Might actually be a lot of fun.

Get a copy of Freedom of the Hills. It's a great reference. Trail running with lots of hills is a good way to get/stay in shape. So is cycling...again hills. Do this 3-4 times/week for at least an hour. When you have time load up a pack with some weight and go for a long hike. All this will give you a great base to begin the more technical aspects of climbing. Have fun!

That's a fucking compliment!

If that's what you'd like to call it. Most of us tailor our lives, and I do mean our lives, to accomodate climbing. We have jobs (or not) that allow us to do this. We choose to live where ever it is we can live to keep us connected to our playground. We make choices so we can afford equipment that help keep us safe and climb efficiently. But more importantly we take care of ourselves. We train exhaustively so that when we do climb, not only are we fit, we go into the deal ready to take care of anything that happens to us. Sometimes, nature bitch-slaps us. When that happens, we come together and take care of ourselves. And when one of our own needs help, they can count on us. It's really that simple. While everyone else is complaining about all of the multitude of things there are to complain about, and wondering what should be done to 'control' this climbing thing. The rest of us will stay here and continue to climb; and when needed, we'll be happy to do anything it takes to help out anyone that needs assistance. No charge.

I heard it directly from the mouth of the Hood River Police Detective during the news conference yesterday. And he said it with such confidence too!

This thread is like fucking Chinese water torture.

True story. My wife asked me this question tonight. Over dinner no less. If you eat a 1000 calorie hamburger, and the next day you crap, does any of the 1000 calories go with it? I told her no, they were burnt by your body during digestion. But I honestly don't know the answer. Anyone?