james_e

yeah, the first and second pullouts have the best moderate sport climbs. the black corridor off of the second pullout has lots of routes from 5.9 up to a couple 5.12s and gets shade all day. and you should definitely get the falcon guide. it's the best. i actually just got back last weekend from red rocks. if you are doing trad too, theres lots in the moderate range in calico basin. if i'm remembering correctly from what i read in the book, panty wall has moderate trad routes too. good luck. congrats on your marriage. -james

well what are the best sport crags in calico basin? thanks for all your input.

well, i'm takin my first trip to red rocks. i'm also going with another red rocks virgin, who also happens to be a trad virgin. where should we go to find easy-moderate sport routes (up to 5.11's)? a little gear placement is ok, but mostly sport please. all suggestions help. thanks. -james

"JIB ON!" ummm....how about backcountry jib on?

If you grad the draw it usually means you're scared, so you will gain more respect from other climbers if you do the whole thing free.

"i like that boulder...that's a nice boulder."

listen to 107.7 the end. i don't know if they still are, but they were having a Ramones marathon deticated to Johnny.

this thread is so true. do you people honestly think that the moderators grunt through work all day at wherever just to come home and gossip about all the cc.comers? maybe if there is a big issue with one of them, MAYBE. but i highly doubt theres an entire thread dedicated to "so-and-so called so-and-so a fucking moron, SO LETS MAKE HIS LIFE A LIVING HELL!!" so get real and get over it.

I also am not taking sides here. I think the moderator was wrong in that he didn't know lambone and for all he knew, 'boner could be the most dedicated climber on this site. Maybe hes embittered by the PEOPLE on this site. So even if he is an asshole, that doesn't mean his bitterness is climbing related. But on the contrary, i think Lambone was overreacting a little too. My guess is the moderator didn't actually mean to quit climbing altogether, even if he did say that, but more to just chill. Everybody, including lambone, needs to just chill out. this really isn't a subject that the entire climbing community of the PNW needs to get involved in. my 2 cents. P.S. Quit beating the dead horse.

"don't reelect the son-of-a-bush"

haha....good luck with that.....

nope, it's two routes to the left of the quarts dike on the keep out

bovine perspiration at the keep-out

yeah, sarcasm. what's not to like about short almost roadside access with little use? i guess i should've used an emoticon or something to show that

all this just means we're gonna have to hit the northback hard this year while it's still there. it will be hard to let go though

yeah. the same stuff plastic cutting boards are made out of. you can get it at most industrial hardware stores, and some standard corner hardware stores too.

sounds awesome. i'll try to clear my busy schedule for this. it'll be my first year coming . see yall on the flipside

anyone know anything about competitions there?

I decided to take my vacation and spent four days in 11worth. Then the weather turned sour so we drove down to play in the wind at tieton river canyon. The cave and then royal columns. Man i forgot how much i hate the approach to royal columns didn't see anyone up there. not a single climber. the Windy Point campground was empty besides us and an old retired couple. Good times.

I seem to remember something about a mammut rope marked with three different colors. Like it was on color in the middle and another color towards the ends.

Diamirs or freerides. i've got both and they've worked great. The naxos are also slightly heavier than the fritschis, but that shouldn't matter much unless you're a huge alpine freak or something. fritschis definitely aren't bombproof either. try two-turning a hardpack bowl. the toe piece doesn't like that. bad times.... If you're into cliff hucking and tossing yourself around in the park inbounds, definitely go for the freerides. I'm intimidated by lots of moving parts, so i've pretty well kept my distance from the naxos. I demoed them once and wasn't too impressed. it seemed like they released strangly in a fall. too much shaking. in conclusion, only get the freerides if you feel that you need the extra din. otherwise, save yourself some green and get the diamirs. good luck.

You guys are not much help. How's the dude supposed to figure it out with the info you're givin him? Ok well where do i start. With hanging belays I like to clip myself into the bolts with two slings girth hitched to the belay loop on my harness. It feels more secure to me than clove hitching myself in with the rope. Then i like to redirect the belay back up through the anchors, as opposed to belaying with the rope going straight from my harness down to the climber. As far as position goes, just do whatever is most comfortable. For a standing belay, like on a ledge, I like to use an auto locking belay thingie attached directly to the anchor. I use a petzl reverso. I just stand facing the belay device so that i can control the rope well. That's about it. Mostly you just need to figure out what is the most comfortable for you and how you can control the rope best, cuz most people do it differently. I hope that helps, and good luck.

I'm game if you'll drive. pm if you're interested.

just a curious question here....Does anyone know by how much a girth hitch reduces the strength of webbing/cord/rope?

That's disgusting. Utterly disturbing...