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check this out Ooohh this looks like fun!

Does this mean the rt from the east side is open? Hwy 123 to stevens canyon road? can I go this way? If so...

Torturing or humilating prisoners is a violation of the geneva convention. As somebody aruging anything about a secretary of defense, you should know this. I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that issuing a news release about the abuse 3 days after it was reported was considered "covering up". One of the cool things they taught me in GED class was how to use Google. I thought I might try this newfound skill to see if Rumsfeld was involved in any type of cover-up. First of all, we know that it is a violation of the Geneva convention to humilate prisoners. Rumsfeld himself pointed this out here. Secondly, there was an internal report made by the Red Cross which indicated that there were prison abuses going on months ago. You can read about that here. Thirdly, Rumsfeld knew about the abuses but did his best to keep them quiet. In fact, Bush was upset that he didn't know about the abuse prior to seeing it on television. You can read about this here. So the question is: Did Rumsfeld cover up the abuses? I think the answer is both yes and no. By not pursuing the reports vigorously and dealing with the issue immediately through his very position as secretary of defense, he became part of the scandal. He kept the information from the public, from congress, and from the president. The question becomes whether or not this was an active cover-up or whether he just didn't think it was that big a deal. To be perfectly honest, I feel like he was probably in the latter camp. He just didn't think that the issue would come out -- he certainly didn't believe pictures would be available to the public -- so he really didn't do anything about it. Was he actively lying...? Probably not. Was what he did wrong? Absolutely. I think Rumsfeld needs to be fired and that the prison needs to be torn down. These symbolic steps -- which are non-partison steps -- would help rebuild some of the ever slipping faith that the middle east has in the united states occupation. Jason I'm sorry, I don't mean to point out that perhaps you should have spent less time using the great googling skills you got out of your GED classes and more time reading what you quoted. Again, I didn't realize that issuing a news release 3 days after it was reported was considered "covering up". I was sticking to the topic of the thread.. Sorry I didn't go along with the drift. If I remember, it was something like D.R. being a cum sucking dirtbag or whatever. Ahh, perhaps if you'd quoted what you were referring too instead of something completely off topic we'd have followed you. You keep saying 3 days after it was reported... I think what Jason was referring to, is the fact that it was reported by the Red Cross months ago.

I was sticking to the topic of the thread.. Sorry I didn't go along with the drift. If I remember, it was something like D.R. being a cum sucking dirtbag or whatever.

Torturing or humilating prisoners is a violation of the geneva convention. As somebody aruging anything about a secretary of defense, you should know this. I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that issuing a news release about the abuse 3 days after it was reported was considered "covering up". You are dumb.. Sorry to bring this link up again, but this may refresh your memories. Web of lies.

Whew another hard week end of work.. Time to play. Anyone have Sun-thurs off? Or any of that time? I'm thinking Rainier wed,thurs would be doable.. maybe fuher finger, or ski ingraham. Maybe some Squamish? Hood then Smith? Send me a message or email .. ajbailey555@yahoo.com

I say go snow on the grand to avoid crowds.. and hit the Stettner/Ford Couloirs, on the Grand, then do buckingham ridge on the Middle teton 5.7 with something like 10-15 pitches, depending on how you climb it.

I prefer the city, to lcc too. I lived in Boise for 5+ years and spent a lot of time there.. May can be Rainy and cold, or cool and dry. But snow free. It's an 11 hour drive for you, so you don't have the luxery of just waiting till the weather is right to go. I wouldn't make it a destination. I'd plan a roadtrip with lot's of possible destinations, and just go to whatever one has the best weather.

I'll have to try this shit on my girlfriend.. She chews right through that PVC shit.

Looking for a partner for Monday & Tuesday.. Alpine or Rock ok.. Leavenworth rock? Alpine on Colchuck? Dragontail? Rainier Fuher Finger?

Climb: Yosemite Valley-Various Crags Date of Climb: 4/23/2004 Trip Report: The trip was pretty last minute. I decided to go and just went. I had one reply from someone in Boise, ID. I drove down from Spokane to pick him up on Friday. We got to Yosemite on Saturday after I displayed amazing endurance in eathing 54 pieces of sushi at an "all you can eat" sushi bar in Reno. We got there pretty late so no climbing on Saturday. I was very anxious to get down to it on Sunday though. To my dismay my partner was much less enthusiastic. It took much coaxing to get him to accompany me on some rock climbing?? WTF were we down there for? While packing for the climb, I noticed his pack was incredibly small.. That was because he only had a harness and shoes.. Uh Oh.. a little communication error's on the phone. He forgot his rope I Guess and didn't really have any other gear. No worries, off we went. We warmed up on after 7 to finish the crag on after 6. We did the first pitch of nutcracker, then went to Sunnyside bench. We did the two short pitches of the Jamcrack. I felt strong enough to lead Lazy Bum, a easier 10c or 10d, not sure.. But I kept popping at the crux. I had 2 bomber nuts in though. I didn't feel too secure in my belay though.. Since I fell 3 different times trying to top it out.. and everytime I fell at the same spot, but ended up about 7 feet away from the prior landing spot? We ended the day there. Next day was even harder to get Jared going. He kept wanting to go on a hike. Eventually we got going and did Bishops Terrace. The whole time he didn't look like he was having any fun.. WTF it was the coolest 5.8 I've ever done. I managed to get him to be my belay slave at the base of el cap, he didn't even want to follow.At this point I had the talk with him, and told him I would find a new partner, and he could go on his hikes.. He wasn't disapointed at all.. I was though. But shortly after I posted a note on the bullutin board, I got a response. I settled into a bottle of Tequilla with this guy and we decided to do Son's of Yesterday. I was very excited, I had to bail on this route 8 years ago, and was happy to see if my cam was still there "ya fukin right". Anyways.. the bottle of Tequilla emptied quickly, so I broke out a bottle of Port.. Somehow, I managed to find my sleeping bag and passed out. I woke early to search out my new partner, ignoring the ache in my head. I couldn't find him anywhere. I went to the camp4 bathroom to do my buisness, and heard the most awefull sounds coming out of a stall. I almost called YOSAR to help put this poor soul out of his misery. It was coming out of both ends by the sounds of it. I was super frightened, it might be someone dying of EBOLA and ran for it. About 10 minutes later, watching from a safe distance, I gazed at the pitiful soul coming from the bathroom.. OH SHIT! It was my new partner! I guess the Shitty Mezcal, and Australian Port didn't go to well with his system. I was once again Fucked. I pacified myself with the comfort that I didn't feel like that guy. I left eary from the Valley, drove straight through for 22 hours.. and got home just to find out I work 2 11 hour nights in a row at the bar, and get to do it all over again! Who's not working this week! Here Is Jared the lazy hippie following Bishops Terrace Gear Notes: Don't forget Sunblock, The village store only had this gel stuff for "Scuba Diving?" Approach Notes: Tioga pass will open May 15th? Or just a rumour?

Try standing in your bindings with your mountaineering boots before going out with that setup. My burton custom bindings only work with a few boots since they have such high backs to them. I'd just wear your snowboarding boots on the hike, since it's just up to Muir\ or take an old pair to use.

Ok That took about 4 hours to finalize... I'm leaving Tomorrow.. 4-23 I found one other person.. The more the merrier.. We'll be coming back next thursday.

Anyone else out there not really interested in working? I am thinking about hitting Yosemite ASAP! It would be a good thing to split gas. I can drive or you can. We can climb together or find our own partners. I am thinking a week would be about enough time to satisfy my hunger for the glacial granite. So if anyone feels an urge to lie to their jobs about a sprained ankle, or just wants to quit. Then send me an email today! ajbailey555@yahoo.com

I'll bring my Nativity Scene snowboard to spread the message of Christ.. Damn! I forgot it's got that great big Psilocybin sticker on it Oh well.. CYA THERE!

Carry pepper spray.. and wait for the first moment he threatens you.. then unload in his fkn Eyeball

I can get the days off.. But what is the terrain like... I'm a raging bull outta control on ski's..

Just for the sake of argument, there, CJF, I'll say I think sunset is a better time of day, for me, for "feeling the power." Whenever I'm out and about at sunrise in the mountains, I'm on my way to climb or ski something. Usually, this means I don't feel that I have time to sit there and admire the sunrise. The power I'm feeling is the buzz from my third cup of coffee and it's time to go! At sunset, however, I'm often done with the day's big project. My secret campsite on XXXXX Mountain, at sunset -- that's the power spot!!! Take a moment sometime. To just stop everything, and sit and enjoy a beautiful sunrise, and feel the power it has to make you know that whatever shit you encounter throughout the day, it will be there for at least 14 more hours

Needles CA, Domelands CA

WTF is all this shit.. What private schools did you guys go to.. Damn.. I don't understand this shit. Yes or no.. Is usually what I understand. For future reference.. Don't rely on me for anything other than fasion orientation on choosing a daisy chain/Locking biner combo.. I go with the Pastels

I don't get mad! I get GLAD! And Pinup or dude or whatever.. You don't don't know how old I am, where I've lived, what kind of car I drive, because it hasn't taken me "34" years in the mountains to realize I don't need to spray about myself on the internet to express my opinion on a subject. Minx asked a question, I replied to it. And another wonderfull addition to Spokane "the super safety expert" PINDUDE of the spokane mountaineers!! If you are being unsafe in anyway, at the local crags. NO WORRIES he'll lecture the shit out of you.. With only your safety in mind of course. BTW pindude thanks for the helpful links in your post. They are of use. And I hope you don't take my posts too seriously That would just make it more fun!

How about this?

I'd just like to add a little. I agree with the comment that if you spend 3+ days on the Mt you will enjoy your experience more, and have less symptoms of altitue illness. But some ppl like me, have a very dificult time sleeping at all above 10,000 ft. So when I do it, I'm more aclimated, but I'm a lot more tired. I end up trying to do a summit attempt feeling better suited to the altitude, but like I haven't slept in 3 days, and the 3 days feel like 5 since I haven't slept. I guess the only way to know this about yourself, it to try it. Some ppl can snore away.

I guess I didn't make this clear. I'm in Spokane!

I tried NFS Seattle and they only have the Makalu's in my size "47" which I allready have a pair ..I'm looking for something a little better and sturdy..Thanks for the tip though.