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Unfortunately this ORRC marathon has been discontinued.

Kill the pig! Kill the pig!

I'm looking for a Cascade Climber interested in climbing some 8000m peaks this weekend. Please submit your climbing resume to me ASAP. I have 2 slots available. Live your dreams.

You mean to tell me that the "trail" has nothing to do with this guy?

You actually need to run under 7:26 per mile, not 7:40. Sorry to correct. Ya, that is what I get for using base 10 (ie 7.44 isn't 7:44 minutes). Anyway, my current pace is 7:40, so I've got to speed up. And I'm looking for someone to run with in the 7:26-7:44 range. Thanks for catching my continued math blunders.

Anyone know the website for this run? It seems to be held by the Oregon Road Runners Club (same people who do the Portland Marathon), but I can't find any info. I just want to find out the following: A.) Is the course certified B.) What is the profile C.) Is the run definitely on for 2005. thanks.

Good evening, I do not have any experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization, but I can tell you all about time tables. Generally, you read them left to right or top to bottom. For instance, my bus time table requires you to read right to left to determine which were the bus stop location is, and top to bottom to determine what time the bus will be there. Here is an example. Now not all time tables are like this. Sometimes they reverse the up/down left/right bit, and sometimes they do other tricky stuff. Here is an example of when they get tricky. As you can see, there is a lot of information here. Not only height in meters and feet, but also laid out by date and time. After you spend a little bit of time, however, you'll find that time tables are a piece of cake, and you'll be sending 8000m peaks with your eyes shut. Good luck!

Register this.

Looks like they are going to try to get thier course certified so it could be a qualifying run. link But if I ran this one I would have to choose between it and the PDX run the next weekend.

I like to connect that ride with starting at Leschi, heading south down to the south end of Lake Washington and up the east side of the lake, then on to Mercer Island. By then you're warmed up to do that loop, and then back over to Leschi.

Related to the marathon thread, I'm looking for someone else who is training to run a marathon at 7:40 minute mile pace (or slightly faster). I would like to hook up with one or two other people for at least the weekend distance run to keep pace with. I think it will probably be easier running with someone else who has the same goal in mind. I know there are running clubs out there, and I'll try them if this doesn't work out. I live in West Seattle, so it would have to be someone in the Seattle area. I've been running in West Seattle and the Burt Gilman trail. Like I said in the other thread, my goal is to qualify for the Boston marathon with a 3:15 time or better, and I'll be running in PDX as my first marathon. PM me if interested.

My parade isn't rained on. I work well with setting goals, and the real test for me is to qualify. Then I will run the Boston run as a "vacation", and just for the experience of running in that race. The other motive is just to get into great shape for other stuff I like to do (climbing, hiking, biking, etc) I do run trails when I can, for the very reason you mention...it is much easier on the legs..but also because the scenery is much better. I do plan on running the Seattle run, unless there is another, flatter run in the same time frame that I can do that will give me a better chance for qualifying.

How old will you be on the date of the Boston marathon? As you probably know the qualifying times are based on age and gender. An exact 8 min/mile pace puts you at 3:29 (which would qualify you only if you're 45 or older). To run a sub 3:15 (qualifying for 35 or older) you'd need a mile pace of 7:24 or faster. The qualifying times can be seen here. What are you recent 10k, 15k or half marathon race times? If you've been training fairly constantly for 4 months you can extrapolate from these your ballpark marathon performance in October. Most likely unless you can run a sub 42minute 10k right now you will not be able to run a sub 3:15 marathon in 8 weeks (which is when the PDX Marathon is). I don't know what I was thinking when I said "8 minute mile". I'm 35, so I've got to run a 3:15 pace. My last race was a 12K in May, which I finished in 57 minutes...shortly after I started training. However until a month ago, my training was for climbing mountains, not running marathons. My longest run has been 21 miles, last weekend. I felt pretty good, but I'm starting to think that realistically I'm going to have to line up some other marathons other than PDX if I'm going to qualify for Boston, because I need to improve my pace by about 10-20 seconds a mile. I am on track to ramp up to running 26+ miles (and taper off before PDX), but since I've never run longer than 12K before (in a race, at least) at this point I don't think I have the "genetic gifts" to qualify at the PDX run. Two questions: 1. What are the other Northwest marathons after PDX (and before April 2005) that you all would recommend that are admissable as Boston qualifiers? 2. What has been your recovery time required in between running marathons? I know this depends on me a bit, but what has been the closest interval for running marathons with respectable finishing times. I want to be able to schedule some races, but I don't want to do them too close together if I'll be wasting my time because my body can't recover. Thanks everyone for the pro-Galloway/anti-Galloway comments. I have read his Marathon! book, which I picked up recently. There is some good information in there. I'm not following his program exactly, but I'm running a minimum of 4 times a week (three 8+ mile runs, one long run on the weekend that I have been ramping up (21 miles last weekend). I also ride by road bike once or twice a week (about 20-30 miles each ride). I make sure to take at least one day off a week. I have also been doing "interval training" every other weekend to see if I can get my pace up. Regardless of which method I use, my goal is to qualify for the Boston run...so I'll keep experimenting and running till I do so.

I have found that climbing steep hills on my roadbike seems to work the exact same muscle group that I use in steep alpine climbing, even more than running up hills. It is also definitely easier on you legs because there isn't the jarring effect associated with running. If you're carrying a load at all, it seems like it is almost better to go on steep hikes carrying wieght to train for that.

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Is Renton a wilderness area?

Not to mention $$$ down the tubes just to fuel that beast.

It is a heck of a ride. I wonder if there is Tour stage that compares with this:

Ya, I think that maintaining the 8 minute mile pace for 26.2 miles might be a stretch even though I've been running for 4 months. I'm actually following the schedule for a qualifying pace found in Galloway's "Marathon!" book. I have no doubt I can finish with a reasonable time, but making it in 3:15 is going to be tough. My goal is really to just qualify for the the 2005 Boston, and I want to do it with enough time to plan the trip out to do it (no last moment plane tickets or anything). Do you have any marathons to suggest? I was going for the Portland and Seattle runs, but I'm open to other ideas (and fast, flat courses ... ).

Just wondering what training program works for you, and what your results have been. I haven't run a marthon before, but I want to qualify for the Boston marathon...which means I have to finish in 3:15. I'll be running in the Portland marathon first, and I hope to qualify then. Anyone else training for this run?

I know it is ebay, but this is an opportunity to own a bitchen car.

Seperated at birth?

Good to see a mullet in the Tour: