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Looks like they are going to try to get thier course certified so it could be a qualifying run. link But if I ran this one I would have to choose between it and the PDX run the next weekend.

I like to connect that ride with starting at Leschi, heading south down to the south end of Lake Washington and up the east side of the lake, then on to Mercer Island. By then you're warmed up to do that loop, and then back over to Leschi.

Related to the marathon thread, I'm looking for someone else who is training to run a marathon at 7:40 minute mile pace (or slightly faster). I would like to hook up with one or two other people for at least the weekend distance run to keep pace with. I think it will probably be easier running with someone else who has the same goal in mind. I know there are running clubs out there, and I'll try them if this doesn't work out. I live in West Seattle, so it would have to be someone in the Seattle area. I've been running in West Seattle and the Burt Gilman trail. Like I said in the other thread, my goal is to qualify for the Boston marathon with a 3:15 time or better, and I'll be running in PDX as my first marathon. PM me if interested.

My parade isn't rained on. I work well with setting goals, and the real test for me is to qualify. Then I will run the Boston run as a "vacation", and just for the experience of running in that race. The other motive is just to get into great shape for other stuff I like to do (climbing, hiking, biking, etc) I do run trails when I can, for the very reason you mention...it is much easier on the legs..but also because the scenery is much better. I do plan on running the Seattle run, unless there is another, flatter run in the same time frame that I can do that will give me a better chance for qualifying.

How old will you be on the date of the Boston marathon? As you probably know the qualifying times are based on age and gender. An exact 8 min/mile pace puts you at 3:29 (which would qualify you only if you're 45 or older). To run a sub 3:15 (qualifying for 35 or older) you'd need a mile pace of 7:24 or faster. The qualifying times can be seen here. What are you recent 10k, 15k or half marathon race times? If you've been training fairly constantly for 4 months you can extrapolate from these your ballpark marathon performance in October. Most likely unless you can run a sub 42minute 10k right now you will not be able to run a sub 3:15 marathon in 8 weeks (which is when the PDX Marathon is). I don't know what I was thinking when I said "8 minute mile". I'm 35, so I've got to run a 3:15 pace. My last race was a 12K in May, which I finished in 57 minutes...shortly after I started training. However until a month ago, my training was for climbing mountains, not running marathons. My longest run has been 21 miles, last weekend. I felt pretty good, but I'm starting to think that realistically I'm going to have to line up some other marathons other than PDX if I'm going to qualify for Boston, because I need to improve my pace by about 10-20 seconds a mile. I am on track to ramp up to running 26+ miles (and taper off before PDX), but since I've never run longer than 12K before (in a race, at least) at this point I don't think I have the "genetic gifts" to qualify at the PDX run. Two questions: 1. What are the other Northwest marathons after PDX (and before April 2005) that you all would recommend that are admissable as Boston qualifiers? 2. What has been your recovery time required in between running marathons? I know this depends on me a bit, but what has been the closest interval for running marathons with respectable finishing times. I want to be able to schedule some races, but I don't want to do them too close together if I'll be wasting my time because my body can't recover. Thanks everyone for the pro-Galloway/anti-Galloway comments. I have read his Marathon! book, which I picked up recently. There is some good information in there. I'm not following his program exactly, but I'm running a minimum of 4 times a week (three 8+ mile runs, one long run on the weekend that I have been ramping up (21 miles last weekend). I also ride by road bike once or twice a week (about 20-30 miles each ride). I make sure to take at least one day off a week. I have also been doing "interval training" every other weekend to see if I can get my pace up. Regardless of which method I use, my goal is to qualify for the Boston run...so I'll keep experimenting and running till I do so.

I have found that climbing steep hills on my roadbike seems to work the exact same muscle group that I use in steep alpine climbing, even more than running up hills. It is also definitely easier on you legs because there isn't the jarring effect associated with running. If you're carrying a load at all, it seems like it is almost better to go on steep hikes carrying wieght to train for that.

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Is Renton a wilderness area?

Not to mention $$$ down the tubes just to fuel that beast.

It is a heck of a ride. I wonder if there is Tour stage that compares with this:

Ya, I think that maintaining the 8 minute mile pace for 26.2 miles might be a stretch even though I've been running for 4 months. I'm actually following the schedule for a qualifying pace found in Galloway's "Marathon!" book. I have no doubt I can finish with a reasonable time, but making it in 3:15 is going to be tough. My goal is really to just qualify for the the 2005 Boston, and I want to do it with enough time to plan the trip out to do it (no last moment plane tickets or anything). Do you have any marathons to suggest? I was going for the Portland and Seattle runs, but I'm open to other ideas (and fast, flat courses ... ).

Just wondering what training program works for you, and what your results have been. I haven't run a marthon before, but I want to qualify for the Boston marathon...which means I have to finish in 3:15. I'll be running in the Portland marathon first, and I hope to qualify then. Anyone else training for this run?

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Seperated at birth?

Good to see a mullet in the Tour:

We could have had a president that had scaled the mighty heights of Mt. Rainier, if Gore had been elected.

We need to make the pie higher. Then there won't be so many fat people, like the guy who flung his bales of fat into me as he jammed his fat ass into the seat next to me on the bus.

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This is sold, pending inspection by the buyer. I'll repost if that does not work out.

Great work. I only wish it came in print! Here is to your first issue and the work that went into it...

Thanks for the tip. It is a Thommen Classic, measures to 15,000 ft max. 10m (30ft) resolution.

I have a Thommen Altimeter for sale for $75. I don't want to deal with shipping it anywhere, and I live in Seattle. I would also consider trades. PM me if interested.