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bug...i have a new avatar pic for you!

gravity is that invisible energy

october 06 global warming. the enchantments glacier has melted!!!!!1

yes, that is normal.

academia has ruined you jay. come down from your tower of ivory.

CAN YOU FEEL IT????? SOON!

holy cow?

its ok jay, i didn't really want to do an expose on me. i would just deny it anyway.

forum upgrade? what forum upgrade?

at times our country sounds very much like that definition.

i see...they hate unions because they are one. brilliant.

There's nothing democratic about unions. nice sound bite. So, why do you think the Chinese Communist party opposes them?

anyway jay, i'll await your response (as long as that takes). i actually suspect that we are not far off from one another...if you have built a profile of what you think my political beliefs are, i would be interested to hear what that is. what i say post here is often done in order to spur the conversation along, not to exemplify my political views. Its true I try to maintain ideals in a less than ideal world. Its true I'm not a big fan of exploitation. It true I believe while humans are doomed to repeat history, i think they can also learn from it. These might be ways we differ, I don't know. I have no doubt you are capable of compassion. i think one idea where we seem to differ is in unions and their place in a capitalist society. i may be errantly reading that difference into your posts, i don't know. i just don't understand why you appear to be so vehemently against unions as a mechanism within a capitalist society, especially when they played such an important roll in our own country...our own country that is held them up to be an example of a successful capitalist society. maybe you believe a "developing" people will never have a use of a union? Can you prove this historically? why did our own country "need" them? Are the changes they brought about negative? of course i have my own opinions (and information or misinformation) about these questions, but I'm very curious about your opinion. i'm also curious as to how these developing countries are going to avoid repeating history. also, remember to vote.

I would LOVE to analyze something for you Jay. Was it your equation of unions to communism? Well, I think you're wrong to make that equation. But maybe I have a different definition than you have of what exactly a union is (or rather, what an optimal union is). KK pointed out that unions can exist outside of communism. Would you agree? Or are they ,in your eyes, little communist sleeper cells? "I would LOVE to analyze something for you Jay. Was it your equation of unions to communism? Well, I think you're wrong to make that equation." Since I've never equated the two, this is a curious statement. Why did the Communist party in China - and virtually every other communist state - outlaw unions? Conversely, why was George Meany* a strident anti-communist? *Help. I can see Porter's response now... snide "UR SO SMART" with an attempt at humor which falls as flat as his "argument". who is the little bitch now?

I'm not reading that link till you answer my question above. as for why the communist party outlawed unions? because the people might be expecting democracy next. duh. it is the same empowerment thing that i believe is a positive element of unions. not unlike our (the American people) ability to overthrow our government every four years, even though most of us seem to have given up on that concept (most of the voting public) i apologize for speculating that you made that equation.

as the saying goes about arguing on the internet...well, I can't say it any more since I have taken on the role of compassionate healer of the worlds woes.

because, in your heart of hearts, you know i iz teh winnar. conversely, that would make you a loser. but i won't bring that up. I WON'T FIGHT AN UNARMED MAN IN A BATTLE OF WITS!!!!!!1 ppsstt..its....ah nevermind

Ha...I OUT DEBATED ALL OF YOU. LOSERS! I AM THE VICTOR. I guess that makes me.....

What I would like for you do now JayB is chart the timeline of these peoples road to prosperity now that we have given them the luxery of sweatshops. What is next for them? Go ahead, answer.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever." I'm outing you as a buddhist right now! \ pssst. it's Orwell. Thanks! Now I really think you're smart!

i make you feel grow taller. for you, no charge.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever." I'm outing you as a buddhist right now!

I would LOVE to analyze something for you Jay. Was it your equation of unions to communism? Well, I think you're wrong to make that equation. But maybe I have a different definition than you have of what exactly a union is (or rather, what an optimal union is). KK pointed out that unions can exist outside of communism. Would you agree? Or are they ,in your eyes, little communist sleeper cells?