olyclimber

would love to see those slides if you have a method to scan kascadia!

Ivan, someday you and I should hook up to do the Flagpole. You can lead all the hard pitches.

a w e s o m e

Nice! Great pictures. Gotta love these longer days.

Awesome, I've been wanting to do this for a while now. This reminded me that I should go do it. And I love that hike through the Silent Men. Great TR, great pics.

Lets hear it!

this is the picture that got me into climbing

PM or email billygoat. He is a Lopez islander, showed me a spot on the southern part of the island on Watmough Bay. Same rock as Erie, though there isn't much.

maybe get car manufacturers to put a system in that if the car is driven under 85 miles an hour for a 30 minute period the doors lock and the car explodes

"They say slowpokes who take over the left lane are problematic because they can actually cause acts of road rage when a faster driver comes up behind them and gets stuck, then streaks by on the right in a fit of anger." Sounds to me like the problem is more the function of some idiot with a burr up their ass looking for a reason to have a fit of anger. So is the cop actually saying the road rage is justified? Its just a fluff piece on a car blog anyway. SLOW LEFT LANE DRIVERS UNITE!

I like to drive slow in the left lane to help others avoid speeding tickets. i consider community service.

did you guys ever share a sheep?

really, all caps dave? [video:youtube]LoF_a0-7xVQ

I really think you're putting words in people's mouths when you say they are "ok with it". I think most people may not be "ok with it" but also might be disenfranchised from anything even remotely involving politics and have just decided to to deal with what ever hand they have been dealt the best they can. As for permits, I can see them being useful in targeted areas that are seeing overuse and destruction of the environment. out side of that, I think they shouldn't exist. But I also think that federal areas should be free to visit and fully funded by the resources that are drawn from them across the land.

Learn to meditate and find your inner soul. Put your soul in a small bird cage and teach it the Weirding Way. Abstain from showering or baths until your scent calls to the rock, and your musk will cause the stone to exude sticky, tacky properties. squeeze a soft rubber ball, working both hands for a least 4 hours a day. Have preclimb psych pow wows with your belayer. select your technical garments with care, their usage should be listed on the tag or website description. Buy yourself a new pair of climbing shoes, even if the old ones aren't worn out. Fast. Travel to India. Go to the library, blindfold yourself, and pick out a book randomly and read it. See a doctor and get medication.

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/tripreports-colinhaley-alaskacrevasse/tripreports-colinhaley-alaskacrevasse.html?q=colin+haley

lmagine this. You are attracted to women, Iike you are now (emotionally and sexually), but they do not exist. They existed a long time ago, and no one knows what they looked like (They have a pretty good idea from the fossils, however), but they do not exist anymore. That means, not only do you know there will never be any possibility of you having sex with one, but there's not even a possibility of you ever seeing one in real life. Everyone else, however, except for a very few, are not attracted to women, they are attracted to something else entirely. So in other words, you will never find any porn anywhere on the internet, only non-sexual pictures of women. Everyone you have told about your attraction to women think it's disgusting. To relieve yourself, you get off on the non-sexual pictures of women, knowing it will never get any better. That's what life is like to me. I am a degree 6 Zoosexual, sexually and emotionally attracted to Tyrannosaurs and nothing else. Women don't even do it for me. I am cursed to live my life in the misery that my most powerful emotional fantasies will never be even close to coming true. Life is like hell to me. I will never know true love.

And I think we would be stupid not to acknowledge that the walls are closing in on us. Seattle is now the fastest growing big city in the United States. This is not the country or state that we were born to. This place is changing. The planet is getting crowded. Future generations may have a hard time grasping the idea of a wild and free land that Thoreau, Muir, Abbey, etc wrote about, let alone visiting them without stepping in someone else's excrement, only partially hidden under a rock. And imagine a place like the Enchantments, but in China....they would probably be mining the granite. I guess that is the flip side of things. Personally, I was thinking of running away to Alaska. We are but visitors here.

I think (as a few others here have also noted) that you seem to be reading something else other than what I wrote. All I did was state the facts, I did not "conform". As well I reposted that information that Mark posted that would be the best way to organize to fight things if you don't like the way they are going. You seem to have something out for the LMA, I'm not sure why. Maybe you can present a few fact as to what they have done to draw your ire, aside from a few of their members trading barbs with you here. They haven't really done anything more than the other, more well established organizations that claim to represent the interest of climbers did. In fact, in the case of these rangers, they have done less as when it comes to the establishment of the of the 2 year program than these other organizations. And I don't have anything to do with the LMA...their website says they represent climbers in the Wenatchee Valley. I don't live there. Here's an idea: you clearly have a better handle on things than these organizations. Why don't you start a new org that does thing the right way? You are a smart guy, maybe you could make a real difference. If your ideas are good, others will join in. It wasn't that long ago that the places I hold dear were free to visit, and you would often never see another person let alone pay a fee to be there. It was pretty tough for me to process the fact that I had to pay to be in some of those places. Yes, I will fight along with those that fight against wrapping these places up with red tape and Recreation Police. But I'm not going the Hayduke Lives route, I guess I feel too old for that. If we think things are going wrong then we need to come together as a community and fight it using the processes that our government provides, for better or worse. Its funny we would argue here, while as others have noted, what I think the biggest enemies to what we hold dear are thousands of miles away.

Care to give us a summary of why LMA is responsible for this? In all honesty, I'm not interested in reading 7 pages to find out myself. Unfortunately that is either FUD or misinformation. The LMA is not responsible. What you'll find from reading that thread is that people from either side (not including the rangers) are pretty good at sniping each other. fact: The LMA engaged the Forest Service and provided input...and also tried to help the Rangers by spreading the word of their existence...but they had nothing to do with the formation of the program. The LMA is just another advocacy group, that happens to represent Wenatchee Valley climbers. It is just one of many advocacy groups that could be involved...the WCC, the Mountaineers are a few others. From the FS Rangers: The LMA isn't even listed. But if you disagree with what is going on here, and you belong to one of those groups, then you'd be best served to communicate that to your organization. A united organization representing your interests trumps a couple of guys bitching in an internet forum any day. Unless that is all you seek to accomplish...to troll for a reaction. Finally, I think Mark W's point is important:

Thanks Rad!