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Elisif Harro and murraysovereign, just for that story about launching his boat

Friday the 16th or Saturday the 17th? Isn't there a Ballard Alpine Club event on Friday?

Nice, Ken. When you get back with a partner I recommend Roulette, it's fuuun. Also let me know when you're headed there next; I know a couple of Cape Town climbers you might be able to hook up with. Lion's Head has some nice climbing too.

Interesting that you make no mention of Chris's discovery that his father had not been divorced from his first wife when he married Chris's mom, and also fathered a child with the first wife after Chris was born. I think you'd be hard pressed to find an 18-year-old capable of forgiving their father after learning that, but maybe the ones who aren't naive and self-righteous would just take that right in stride.

Didja have to frontpoint all the way down the same way?

Rad. Looks like NW Face of N Ridge of Forbidden was just a nice little warmup for that. Water ice or kicking steps most of the way? Take me next time!

I bought a moonstone fleece hoodie thing out of the back of Trogdor's van a few months back and it's beautifully long in the torso, not to mention the arms.

I have a 1993 GMC Safari 4X4 van with a bed in the back that I'm looking to sell if you have any interest.

Anybody got a recommendation? Seattle area, preferably Fremont/Ballard. My Tercel needs some work and I'm never ever going to my old mechanic again.

Oh that's right -- tell Kevin and Owyhee congrats for me. I'll do my best to "send that shit" in your honor.

wow. Thanks everyone for the offers and suggestions. Turns out my partner has the Kerry book; I'm noting the route suggestions. I sure *hope* I'll be up for 5.11; we'll see how the !$*% elbow reacts to "real" climbing. GB, Susan, maybe a drink this Friday?

sweet! I heard that was available but no one knew where. Looks like I'll be doing some printing...

I'm heading to AZ for my brother's wedding in a week and planning to spend several days at Cochise. Does anyone have a guide they'd be willing to loan out for a week? thanks.

Casey!! Welcome home! You going to be at Dante's on Thursday?

Sheesh. Here's to a quick recovery Oly. Injuries suck. At least you should be back on your feet in time to use that new backcountry set-up from your last hospital stay!

EMT class Saturday, attempt to study Sunday, Index Monday. Hooray Index.

Man it is astounding the shenanigans you married folks have to go through in order to leave the house. Good luck to you all.

Too bad you didn't get to play on the hoist, that is sooo fun. My favourite part of the article: "Unless you're a climber, it's probably not a good idea to be climbing."

Nice article. Did you and Barry camp out and play with helicopters or did you come back on Monday night?

210 square feet for several years (that *was* pretty small), then several that were 450-500ish. No extra storage space. No "common area" other than the hallway. Now I have a 2Br apt (I think it's massive), with a roommate, because it's actually cheaper than any studio I could find.

It's not as burdensome, thanks to the deductions for mortgage interest, you dumbass. We all can figure our personal cost-benefit analysis and make that choice based on the status quo. The proposal was to CUT the deductions for mortgage interest, and child/dependent care deductions. Changing the status quo is the topic under discussion. If someone thinks it's so unfair to rent and not get a deduction, figure out if you could benefit more by owning. If so, buy. If not, shut up. If you think people benefit monetarily by having kids and taking a deduction, well, I've got news for you, you don't come out "ahead", but you do get a lot of help to make ends meet. I have no problem with rent and the fact that renters can't deduct. I have an enormous problem with the proposition that "My freely chosen lifestyle is so costly that I can't make ends meet without a government subsidy, therefore I deserve one."

An absolute number in isolation is meaningless. Divide your square footage by the number of occupants, and you get a more meaningful baseline for discussion. 3000 sq ft for 2 or 3 people is ridiculous. For 5 or 6, is not so bad at all. How many single childless folks here would live in a 600 sq ft studio and think that is "luxurious"? I lived for years in studios smaller than that and was very comfortable.

Of course, no landlord would include the costs of their mortgage and property taxes in the rent they charge. They just eat that cost.

Please note: Due to the fact that it's the first nice day in a week venue has been shifted to Pacific Inn on Stone Way, where we can sit outside and eat killer fish & chips.

Dude, I'm midway in life's journey. I'll leave that to the college girls.