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Telling me to fuck off because I questioned your definition of style doesn't really strike me as an incredible sense of humour, but whatever you want, dude. Glad you came through your rehab and are obviously climbing strong again. Fucking off now.

Okay, so if I'm understanding you correctly you're saying that a 300-foot fall resulting in retreating with a broken ankle "wins" for style over a 150-foot fall with only minor injuries when you can continue climbing. So the longer the fall and the more fucked up you are as a result, the better the style? You're certainly welcome to hold whatever opinion you wish, but I think I'll stick with the idea that climbing your route clean, topping out, and going home uninjured is the best possible style, not the reverse.

You ever taken a winger like that and walked, crawled or hobbled away? No, I am not joking. Anyone can fall off....getting out by yourself after something like that is admirable. Few have the stones required to pull it off. Agreed self-rescue is admirable, and I'm certainly glad that anon made it out ok. But you were awarding "some serious style points for distance on the fall." Is falling a long way and getting hurt really good style in your book?

That would be fine with me, but Wehrly might get a little jealous.

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Nice work guys. Damn, Ade, you've been busy this month! Thanks for writing it up. kellie

Lichtenberg was nice on Friday. Conditions were only ok, but what a beautiful day.

thanks Don.

sweet; thanks!

Any word on whether anything is in around Hope?

sweet; thanks dru.

Amish girl is glad she went to Leavenworth and climbed dry cold rock instead. Thanks for the conditions report.

Will there be the traditional pre-slideshow beer available tonight or should we bring our own?

Yeah, I still have the snow stakes. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, I've been in Costa Rica. I'm in Seattle.

Leashes sold. Somebody need shoes and bike accessories?

Rope bag and gloves are sold. Anyone who PMd me about the leashes, I'll let you know asap if the first guy doesn't take them.

I can't view "Active Topics" without getting spray. If I click on "spray free" it automatically takes me back to all active posts. Is this still being worked on or is it my computer? Also it would be really nice if you could set your preferences for this view so you don't have to click four different times to get to the view you want.

Trying to clean out the closet. Buy some of my stuff! Cloudveil Troller gloves, size medium, $24 SOLD La Sportiva Miuras, size 40, $35 La Sportiva Katanas, size 40.5, $25 Black Diamond Lockdown leashes, $10 SOLD Black Diamond superslacker rope bag, $10 SOLD Fritschi Daimir ski crampons, never used, $20 And a couple things I fogot to put on the first time: Deluxe (or Deeeeluxe, as lunger would say) bike pump, $10. Also I have no photo but I have a Rocky Mount front fork mount bike rack compatible with Yakima roof rack, $35. Anyone who wants these can just have them.

Can someone please explain to me why spending my tax dollars on rescuing people is so bad that several times a year we have to got through a cycle of bitching about it, but spending my tax dollars on enormous visitors' centers, RV hookups, and paved nature trails for people who don't want to get more than 500 yards away from their cars merits no comment whatsoever? If I'm going to complain about where my tax dollars go, it would be turning the wilderness into Disneyland, not rescuing folks who are in trouble.

Dude, the love between Team A and Team B is clearly doomed, kind of like the Montagues and Capulets. I am, as always, in awe of you both.

If I played that would be a tempting offer, but I don't and my dad is running up big medical bills right now, so I'm sticking with cash, sorry. I'm willing to be flexible on the price though.

that's because there's no point in reporting those routes that goes at 5.6 moss, 5.4 trees, and 5.scary shitty licheny rock. which you bailed from in the end anyway.

Still available.

Anyone been in there recently? How broken up is it? How's the schrund?

I find it interesting that topropers are such a problem. I must not crag enough or not at the right places. I've definitely skipped more routes I hoped to lead because a leader was taking for-freaking-ever to get up them than I have because people were toproping them.