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I tried to take a look at it on Monday, but was breaking trail, on fat skis, in snow up to my waist. Hopefully they'll have the upper lot plowed by now. Even if it was in, it wasn't accessible.

I'll put in another plug for AIARE courses - the only nationally standardized and recognized curriculum in Avie courses in the United States.

Actually, I'd ask you why did you go back to a fork after using chopsticks?

G, you're my hero. Thanks!

That's great G, but I was hoping you'd be a little more specific...

So I've thumbed through my copy of McLane's Alpine Select, but I'm never around in the summertime. What routes or peaks listed are also good winter objectives?

11-16 December

So, because I promised that since she started it here, I'd finish it here. I had my consult last Tuesday, and my surgeon cleared me for running and skiing, but no heavy lifting, and definetely no climbing. So I got in some of the best powder days ever at Mt. Baker this week. He wanted to wait until after I completed my final exams to operate, but I said, "And miss ice climbing over Christmas? No." So I'm home tonight after spending a rather boring afternoon at the Pacific Rim Outpatient Surgery Center. The good news is that the hernia wasn't so large that it required a teflon patch. But it does feel like I've been punched in the stomach a few times. I should be back up to some speed by next week. Thanks for everyone's advice, help, and humor!

Actually, there are no permits. None. And the rules about packing out trash and waste are self-imposed by the companies that offer antarctic trips (its a great rule, in my opinion, but it does up the cost). Check out Adventure Networks International. http://www.adventure-network.com/

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I spoke with Matt at Yates Gear yesterday. This was his email response: I have the PDF he sent, and if anyone can give me directions on how to attach it, I will do so.

5 inches of snow my ass. I shoveled more than a foot off of my deck. I think its stupid to expect these towns to buy snow equipment as if we're Jackson Hole when we get snowed on once every three years. Crotchety old man

You're right, I'm thinking of salvage logging operations like what happened in Icicle Canyon not too long ago. Wheelbarrows on trails? In my three years building trails in northern New Mexico we only used a wheelbarrow once. And "used" refers to the six miles round trip we moved it from the helo drop-off to the work site and back.

RBW, this is a tired, old retort. "Oh, if you don't want to spend x dollars replacing them, you must place a cheap price on your life." It has been valid at times - I remember someone asking if an activated screamer could still be used as a regular sling! But come on. I, for one, simply don't like buying things unnecessary, especially when that money could go towards gas so I reach the mountain that I want to climb with the gear I've already bought! So I think Gene's question is entirely valid, and I'm interested in hearing his reply. I've also sent an email to Yates to see what they say...

This is supposedly the rule, but it is mostly (rightly!) ignored by National Park and Forest administrators who recognize the folly and allow their limited use in designated wilderness for trail maintenance. Back in the early 1990's the Alpine Lakes Protection Society attempted to block the use of chainsaws being employed to clear thousands of windfelled trees from a huge storm the previous winter and reopen hundreds of trail miles, citing The Wilderness Act 1964. The USFS manager then threatened to adhere to the letter of the law.....by sending out crews with hand augers and dynamite. ALPS relented. Now that's a land manager I could buy a beer for! Under the strictest, most radical employment of Wilderness Act regs even the use of wheelbarrows could be prohibited. Wheels. Fairweather, isn't it true that those chainsaws were clearing thousands of trees to sell on the private market? To open those "hundreds" of miles of trails wouldn't have required chainsawing all those trees - a simple cross-cut saw would work too. But you are right, Superintendents have the right to waive the wilderness act under special circumstances - like the use of chainsaws, wheelbarrows, helicopter supply runs, etc. Another example of this is when the Yosemite National Park Superintedent allows the ASCA to replace bolts with battery powered drills, an act that got Skinner and Piana fined when they first freed the Salathe.

Can you tell us more?

Have you given Yates a call and asked them?

Timmay, please... Who here runs a search for threads less than a week old? Anyone? Buhler? So could the default Date Range on the Search function be new than 7 years, older than 1 day? Instead of newer than 1 week, older than ? I usually use the search for a general subject - only on two occassions have I used it to track down a specific thread. I'm frustrated by having to reset that date range every time I do a search, and this way I wouldn't have to unless I could remember "about" when a thread was posted. What do you think?

Cool. Check your PM's...

Where? I used my best book 'bot and came up empty.

I've been struggling to search for this book online without an ISBN, or to find an ISBN for it online. Can one of you post an ISBN?

I'm one of them. Not to get off topic, but the impact force means everything to me, and Beal's have the best in market.

From the Beal website, http://www.bealplanet.com/portail-2006/index.php?page=duree_vie&lang=us

Its a little tarnished.

How ironic - the public getting upset for the government actually doing something rational. Fact is, Americans perceive paper bills to be more practical (ignoring the cost of production and distribution), so until the $1 bill is eliminated, we'll never have a succesful $1 coin. And our politicians can't even have enough spine to push that through. Personally I've spent a lot of time in Canada, New Zealand, and Australia, all of whom have $1 and $2 coins (not bills). It wasn't a problem.