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THE CHICK IN THE NEXT CUBE IS CRUNCHING ON ICE CHIPS. IT IS DRIVING ME INSANE. SHE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR AN HOUR! SO SHE DOESN'T SNACK ON ANYTHING. OMFD IT IS DRIVING ME NUTS AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i can't think of anything to offer someone for an invite

discuss

am i the only one having a problem with it today?

friendly reminder to all to have some common descency. snowbyrd et al., if we're going to analyze this accident to death, including the use of a helmet please start a new thread. these guys did a good thing. lets keep it positive. speedy recovery to the 2 climbers who were injured!

telemarker, that's right along the lines of what i meant. i used to be pretty carefree about what we climbed. mostly alpine and trad stuff. pretty much if i even thought the proposed route was in the realm of possibility for my abilities, i'd go. shortly after my son was born, i made myself a single parent. at that time i neither had the time or inclination to climb. it felt to risky. it's bad enough to leave your child with one parent but what if you left him with none??? now i don't worry quite as much. if kill myself climbing he's got someone else to count on. that said, i am more cautious about the little things, tying into anchors, tying into the rope, setting up rappells etc. it's ruined me in the sense that i don't push myself very often. i seldom try a lead that is pushing my abilities, i'm more mindful of bad weather, etc. i'm more apt to bail off something if i get into trouble than push through it. that sort of thing. the thing that i do want to point out though, as i've let go of the frustration of not being able to push my physical limits anymore, i enjoy climbing more. pretty much anytime i get out and get a few pitches in, i consider it a successful day. if i didn't achieve whatever goal i had for the day...eh, so what? my perspective is definitely different.

i've said it before i quit climbing for many years because of my son. it was a mistake. h/e, having a child has ruined me as a climber. i am much more cautious in my selection of situations. i don't push my limits as hard nor do go for the high risk/high reward situations anymore. i might be the most horrible mother out there (fairly good chance of it really) but it would matter to somebody if i died. let me add the following: having a child has given me perspective which is good. i am also probably likely to live longer because of it. perhaps i am too cautious now but i am more careful about all aspects of my climbing. i've probably reduced my risk of being the reason for a rescue outing. i'm reasonably convinced that karmically i of all people ended up a parent for my own good as much as anything. despite the fact that my climbing is much less "exciting" than it used to be i enjoy it just as much if not more. again, it's that perspective thing.

the washington rock book has some of the worst approach directions ever and not just for fossil rock. regard them skeptically every time!

i'll go if someone will carry me up the approach trail.

sunny rock and with lotsa friends

looked out window, damp streets and rock, run misc annoying errands, football, football, football, w/friend, sleep, get up, annoying chores, family bday bbq. climbing = 0 chores =1^5987938774 beverage = overall =

sheesh! and here i thought you were a PBR man

YAY!!!! well done i'm sure! for fern!

snowbyrd, how did you decide to go to vantage? if you just want some nice weather and some moderate climbs, vantage will fit the bill. However, as the title of this thread suggests, you want to do some multipitch climbing, why would you choose vantage?

you never know what's happened via PM now do you?

Might I just point out that if you want to climb a multi pitch route, it won't matter much weather it's sport or trad if you're not doing the leading. If you're climbing a gear route, you'll have to clean a few pieces and maybe an anchor, maybe not depending on the route. The mechanics aren't much different for the second. Unclip the draw or clean the piece. You'll do fine either way.

"Ralston, an official finisher with a time of 29:43, said he got sick after eating an onion sandwich but continued running despite feeling nauseated." cripes i'd be nauseated running a 5K after eating one of those!

hmmm...i was talking about the one in N. Bend. didn't know that issascratch had one. learn something new everyday. i wish today's bit of wisdom was better than that

? since when? i ate at jay berry's 2 weeks ago?

Bug, I think the general, underlying tenants of behaviour espoused by christianity are good thing and do not worry me in the least. this is true with every religion i've studied. the underlying principles are pretty sound way to live your life. it's the modern interpretations and actions of a given religions followers that worry me. b/c i live in the US, the christians worry me. if i lived someplace else i would probably worry about the effects of the major religion in that locale. my underlying point is this: why do we need religion. each religion, at it's core, espouses a fundamental set of guidelines for living. all them seem to have a pretty good foundation. be nice to each other, don't steal, cheat, lie, kill etc. the fundamentals are all the same. why have so many? why have any for that matter. go on about living a good life and don't worry about your neighbor's beliefs eh?

"joy in the universe, and keen curiosity about it all-that has been my religion" - John Burroughs. merv- i think the crux of this issue for any of us who do not subscribe to a particular organized religion is that religion (the whole big thing not just christianity) is forced into our lives every single day. for those of you who are christian it would be the same has having to traditions of islam forced into the smallest parts of your world day after day after day after day after day. while there may be no egregious insult, there is a continuous afront to one's sensibility. i simply do not understand why those of an organized religious persuasion feel the need to inflict their beliefs upon me and upon the rest of society. you keep your beliefs to yourself. quit telling my child he's going to hell if he doesn't believe. i'll keep mine to myself. i won't tell your children that the bible is wrong. have a nice day

i'll go to little si but only if greg_w, will strickland, the guy w/the scar promise to stay at index. those guys are too right wing and/or creepy for me.

well it sounds like you've used up at least life #3.

well then tell the wildlife to quit invading my habitat! sheesh! deer in the backyard, coyotes in the field, birds chirping in the morning, that friggin rooster screaming at sunrise, snaffles eating my lunch. this has got to stop! they're ruining my domestic experience!

the north bend bar and grill should be avoided at all costs. blech! i've been sick each of the 4 times i've eaten there. North Bend suffers from a dirth of decent eateries. Try the rogue brew pub in Issaquah. tasty food and beer.