minx

well i appreciate the useful information but now i'm even more depressed.

at the moment, i'm out of goats. perhaps you could sacrifice one of your women...er...herd and let me know what the weather will be like next week?

yeah i know reliability is going to blow but damn it...i need some hope. what source do you use for a 10 day forecast?

where do i sign up for a wife? the bathroom needs cleaning, the laundry is piling up and i just dumped all the gear from the w/e in the middle of the kitchen. someone needs to clean up that mess. can i substitute salmon for sea bass?

special- if your own sex life is lagging these days, take a look at the above post. you're just making this way too complicated. there's already 2 women and ice chips-the rest of that is just superfluous.

fine, fine, that'll work but i get 75% of the royalties. or one of you fine lads can over here and take care of her latent sexual needs. where's layton when ya need 'em? ken-nope it's not someone you know. she's got the annoying continuous laugh covered though!

THE CHICK IN THE NEXT CUBE IS CRUNCHING ON ICE CHIPS. IT IS DRIVING ME INSANE. SHE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR AN HOUR! SO SHE DOESN'T SNACK ON ANYTHING. OMFD IT IS DRIVING ME NUTS AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i can't think of anything to offer someone for an invite

discuss

am i the only one having a problem with it today?

friendly reminder to all to have some common descency. snowbyrd et al., if we're going to analyze this accident to death, including the use of a helmet please start a new thread. these guys did a good thing. lets keep it positive. speedy recovery to the 2 climbers who were injured!

telemarker, that's right along the lines of what i meant. i used to be pretty carefree about what we climbed. mostly alpine and trad stuff. pretty much if i even thought the proposed route was in the realm of possibility for my abilities, i'd go. shortly after my son was born, i made myself a single parent. at that time i neither had the time or inclination to climb. it felt to risky. it's bad enough to leave your child with one parent but what if you left him with none??? now i don't worry quite as much. if kill myself climbing he's got someone else to count on. that said, i am more cautious about the little things, tying into anchors, tying into the rope, setting up rappells etc. it's ruined me in the sense that i don't push myself very often. i seldom try a lead that is pushing my abilities, i'm more mindful of bad weather, etc. i'm more apt to bail off something if i get into trouble than push through it. that sort of thing. the thing that i do want to point out though, as i've let go of the frustration of not being able to push my physical limits anymore, i enjoy climbing more. pretty much anytime i get out and get a few pitches in, i consider it a successful day. if i didn't achieve whatever goal i had for the day...eh, so what? my perspective is definitely different.

i've said it before i quit climbing for many years because of my son. it was a mistake. h/e, having a child has ruined me as a climber. i am much more cautious in my selection of situations. i don't push my limits as hard nor do go for the high risk/high reward situations anymore. i might be the most horrible mother out there (fairly good chance of it really) but it would matter to somebody if i died. let me add the following: having a child has given me perspective which is good. i am also probably likely to live longer because of it. perhaps i am too cautious now but i am more careful about all aspects of my climbing. i've probably reduced my risk of being the reason for a rescue outing. i'm reasonably convinced that karmically i of all people ended up a parent for my own good as much as anything. despite the fact that my climbing is much less "exciting" than it used to be i enjoy it just as much if not more. again, it's that perspective thing.

the washington rock book has some of the worst approach directions ever and not just for fossil rock. regard them skeptically every time!

i'll go if someone will carry me up the approach trail.

sunny rock and with lotsa friends

looked out window, damp streets and rock, run misc annoying errands, football, football, football, w/friend, sleep, get up, annoying chores, family bday bbq. climbing = 0 chores =1^5987938774 beverage = overall =

sheesh! and here i thought you were a PBR man

YAY!!!! well done i'm sure! for fern!

snowbyrd, how did you decide to go to vantage? if you just want some nice weather and some moderate climbs, vantage will fit the bill. However, as the title of this thread suggests, you want to do some multipitch climbing, why would you choose vantage?

you never know what's happened via PM now do you?

Might I just point out that if you want to climb a multi pitch route, it won't matter much weather it's sport or trad if you're not doing the leading. If you're climbing a gear route, you'll have to clean a few pieces and maybe an anchor, maybe not depending on the route. The mechanics aren't much different for the second. Unclip the draw or clean the piece. You'll do fine either way.

"Ralston, an official finisher with a time of 29:43, said he got sick after eating an onion sandwich but continued running despite feeling nauseated." cripes i'd be nauseated running a 5K after eating one of those!

hmmm...i was talking about the one in N. Bend. didn't know that issascratch had one. learn something new everyday. i wish today's bit of wisdom was better than that

? since when? i ate at jay berry's 2 weeks ago?