COL._Von_Spanker

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission." It's called technique. Whatever He's got a whole lot of technique from 2 climbs. Doubt it Don't drag my technique into this Ray, I didn't make the thin ice comment.

Booooooooooring We all know that republican and democrat are really the same when it comes down to what actually happens in the capital. The concept of our national system is that of a "do nothing gov't" which is a means of disallowing any 'extreme' action to be taken by the federal gov. So ther is no need to worry. Republican and democratic parties as far s how they really vote and act in tha capatal should just be lumped together as "the moderate party" But if you ask me the whole Rep/Dem debate is rather tired.

quote: Originally posted by Fence Sitter: serratus...1/5 the price and 1/5 the gimmicks... 3x the weight. I have the alpine 60. It's really comfortable, does everything that I need it to and more, bomber construction, but it weighs in at 5.5lbs.

quote: Originally posted by mattp: quote:Originally posted by Beck: every little feature you want, any option you want, and nothing you don't Have you ever bought a pack from Dan McHale? To say the least, he has very strong ideas about what is right for one of his packs. I am a big fan of his stuff, but if you think you can walk in there and ask for features that he doesn't approve of, you have the wrong shop. That's very true Matt.

quote: Originally posted by danielpatricksmith: Funny that, in Scotty Pottymouth's world bouldering is free soloing. No wonder he gives Outerspace a 5.9+, grade IV rating. A guy tries to do something nice and you flip him shit. Its all semantics. Thanks for the photo scott.

Ok, Ok, folks I guess I'm a little overzealous, but it's hard to not get excited. They say patience is a vitue, but Ice is like crack, and I think crack would beat virtue in a fight.

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: I'm some sort of right-wing nutcase running around kicking homeless people and eating babies. What's with that? Greg W Come on Greg, I was at the rope up and saw this first hand. You don't have to lie. Those poor babies. And you forgot to mention that you hate puppies and kittens. Your correct, you're not a right wing wacko, and your very pleasant to be around. Tell all the haters to go f themselves. Most people wouldn't know an opinion if it hit'em in the ass.

quote: Originally posted by TimL: YOu forgot Cascade Crags! I heard they have the best, most reliable ice around. Really? I'll have to check it out. Is it in any guide books?

Nice Glissade...

quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: quote:Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: I'll be surfin' n LA in two weeks. Oh yeah baby...... Cool, dude. The E. Coli and Staph bacterium levels spike from the expected rain should be subsiding by then. Damn that sucks. I wanted some ecoli.

I'll be surfin' n LA in two weeks. Oh yeah baby...... And I'll also be eatin' turkey and climbin' at Jtree. oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah..........

quote: Originally posted by Retrosaurus: quote:Originally posted by JayB: Agreed. Top-roping is enjoyable, and a good way to build the necessary skills, but when you lead ice you're playing a very different game. Once someone has lead a pitch or two of ice at the boundaries of their skills, strength, and confidence their perception of the activity seems to change dramatically. At least that's what I noticed when my friends and I took it up. I had led 5 pitches of waterfall ice before I had the luxury of following or top-roping ice. Although,I can't reccommend this approach, the learning curve is very steep. It has always been scary. Not quite sure why I am still alive. quote: Anyone else recall what they felt and or any changes in their perception of ice climbing after their first stiff lead? Hopeless, full-on addiction. Mitch, I knew you couldn't stay away from this one Though scary as hell and really unsafe, trial by fire is how i've often learned. Probably not the best idea for vertical water ice though. Erik, WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS YELLING? SEE YOU TONIGHT. [ 11-05-2002, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: COL. Von Spanker ]

quote: Originally posted by danielpatricksmith: quote: posted 11-05-2002 01:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by danielpatricksmith: Mr Goodtime; I honestly can't really put my finger on what I might have said that pissed everyone off so much. Perhaps it was that I gently suggested that folks might get more enjoyment from climbing by taking a more exploratory approach to climbing in the Cascades. =) BTW, 'Sport Climbing for the New Millenium' is a registered tradmark of Elitist Bastard, LLC, all rights reserved. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If that's what you meant, why did't you just say that ? I don't know, I like the sound of my own fingers typing? l like the exploratory aspect, it just takes experience to be able to know when ice is climbable, protectable, and all that other shiz, otherwise one can easily get in over yer head. But that's what often makes it fun for me. Spent three days in the eldorado area climbing stuff that's not in any books, it was super easy trad and mixed alpine stuff but one of the funnest trips I've done.

quote: Originally posted by danielpatricksmith: Mr Goodtime; I honestly can't really put my finger on what I might have said that pissed everyone off so much. Perhaps it was that I gently suggested that folks might get more enjoyment from climbing by taking a more exploratory approach to climbing in the Cascades. =) BTW, 'Sport Climbing for the New Millenium' is a registered tradmark of Elitist Bastard, LLC, all rights reserved. If that's what you meant, why did't you just say that ?

Erik, you dont have to get upset. I'm talkin about close to Seattle. Thought about Lilly-wet, and that might just be a possibility. Do you want to go or something?

quote: Originally posted by erik: quote:Originally posted by thelawgoddess: yeah; better stay away from banks lake. go get lost. k, then.......they are steep and thin......i would rather rock climb, then climb on choss ice.............correct me ice guys.....but there are not too many moderates out there are?? last time we were over bashing, the moderate ran out fast....and ya had to sack it up for some reall fun stuff...... u will see me on the big blue soon enough...... have fun and bring your draws and crashpad.........and your helmet..... If I bagged a trip every time there was a concern about volume of people I'd never go climbing, Its the way of the world now. BTW, I'm not the only one going so back off all you haters. I'm climbing with a friend that can lead the harder shit, and beside I just want to scope out the area. So if you can think of a better place to go Ice climbing fill me in......

After seeing those photos that routes is definately on my to-do list.

Yeah, I would also be down with muir on saturday if there's some snow. I just got a new type of ski where there is only one plank that both feet are attached to and you face sideways going down the hill., I think I'll call it a snowboard. Thread drift

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: Banks lake Ice baby. Have fun sharing it with the rest of Seattle Sesame Street told me sharing is nice. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I'm gonna go scope out banks lake this weekend. Hopefully it stays cold.

The weather forcast isn't lookin that great...Not that I trust the weather persons but I would rather get rained out after driving three hours as opposed to 6. Banks lake Ice baby.

quote: Originally posted by lisa: Hey Rodeo, When you get your pics developed, please share them. I guess you and I were not in their roll of film, or, we were not worthy of posting. Either way, I would like to see how your pics turned out. You don't need to post them for wankers, just share them at a pub club or stop in. I was belaying you two, Hands on rope, not on camera. I have one of Rodeo lowering, and there may be one of lisa. Ran out of time yesterday, as I have to scan them into Photoshop and upload and shit. I'll bring them tonight.

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Hey, is that little ice flow the one on the trail up to the Coleman? It was about 30m off to the right in the open meadow that you cross after the climbers trail forks to the right. About 15 minutes up the ridge from the good camping area in the trees that we didn't find until after we set up the tent. It was small but we all climbed it a bunch of times so it was almost like climbing a long route

How were your calves feelin' after that one? TLG.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Thats water ice all right! According to some The Col. [ 11-04-2002, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: COL. Von Spanker ]