billcoe

Give it about 3 or 4 more posts before it turns south. LOL

They may have take a back seat to the D5 hammers you were helping move along:-)

Don't lay out the scratch just yet unless you have a Hawk specific project. I've been giving Theron some feedback and I think he's coming out with an improved version. They need to be bigger and canted more for the basalt here, and I think they are in the under construction phase now.

Nice ! Ya ever wonder what's holding that block up there (just above Kyle)? BTW, How'd ya like the Tomahawks?!

I make successful joke? No? Seriously, divorces are often one of the most painful things a person will ever experience. The 3 most important things for most of us is relationships, money and health. They are all upset and threatened in a rancorous milieu tempered with fear of the the unknown in the process. I mean no harm to anyone with my attempt at humor there. Regards to all

Super, and if you're that enamored, maybe you should check out the web site www.bitchfromhell.com. You can also get your former MS Paul McCartney and former MS Billy Joel fixes there at the same time. Or one can skip all that and go directly to CC.coms own Marc LeClerc who offers up his version of Heloise, Dear Abby and Ann Landers advice rolled up into one. Marcs learning and advice center for lonely men

....and the good news is that it appears that it is eligible for public subsidized loans! So congrats as we will get to help pay for it. (that is, us who are taxpayers and not slackers and system suckers like JB who must be off to his regressive get-to-gether Glen Beck march at the MLK tunnel of love.) "NEW YORK | Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:58pm EDT NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Muslim center planned near the site of the World Trade Center attack could qualify for tax-free financing, a spokesman for City Comptroller John Liu said on Friday, and Liu is willing to consider approving the public subsidy. The Democratic comptroller's spokesman, Scott Sieber, said Liu supported the project. The center has sparked an intense debate over U.S. religious freedoms and the sanctity of the Trade Center site, where nearly 3,000 perished in the September 11, 2001 attack. "If it turns out to be financially feasible and if they can demonstrate an ability to pay off the bonds and comply with the laws concerning tax-exempt financing, we'd certainly consider it," Sieber told Reuters. Spokesmen for Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Governor David Paterson and the Islamic center and were not immediately available. The proposed center, two blocks from the Trade Center site in lower Manhattan, has caused a split between people who lost relatives and friends in the attack, as well as conservative politicians, and those who support the project. Among those who support it are the mayor, civic and religious groups, and some families of victims. The mosque's backers hope to raise a total of $70 million in tax-exempt debt to build the center, according to the New York Times. Tax laws allow such funding for religiously affiliated non-profits if they can prove the facility will benefit the general public and their religious activities are funded separately. The bonds could be issued through a local development corporation created for this purpose, experts said. The Islamic center would have to repay the bonds, which likely would be less expensive than taxable debt. New York City's Industrial Development Authority could not issue debt for the center because the state civic facilities law, which governed this type of financing for non-profits, was allowed to expire about two years ago. (Reporting by Joan Gralla; Editing by Dan Grebler)" ps, the tax thing is a joke, merely one more reason not to move to NYC.

Maybe this will fix it:

Ah, new info. I see. well, don't move to Georgia either. I heard that their Aids clinic and support is very poor. I'm mean, in case you do get aids at some point.

Thanks for the heads up Pink. F^$X$@ Bastards.

Woot! Hard not to dream of beautiful long granite now!

Not me, but I have a pretty pink curly tail thing hanging on my blue handled DMM nut tool that pairs well with pink shoes so if I ever lose it all the real men will want to give it right back. Kenny tells me that there's still a lost cam up on the ramp of the corner, you should bootie that.

I can only hope this will give the family's some peace and a chance to say goodbye. Hard to loose the good ones, a sad reminder that life is an eyeblink for us all.

Not Athens....Sparta. (Athens Georgia)

1st pitch or 2nd? How many points on 8a do ya get for 10 laps up the SE Corner?

Yes, if we want to get on real rock, we have to go to Washington or California. LOL! Adam and I were kicking steps in dirt to get up the base of the Steeple. Wish we'd had an ice axe. You guys are so blessed with all those long solid granite routes nearby and cracks that soar to the sky. This is a crackless but interesting conglomerate of ash/like welded tuff matrix with solid Andesite/basalt nodules in it. The water has eroded the ash, leaving these solid awesome knobs sticking out crazy every which where. It's off the hook fun and crazy climbing when the knobs stay put. Side note: Ben Priestly, the awesome dude who found and turned me onto the spot: conveyed an idea to me. Nothing would please me more than if Ben's dream could be continued and fulfilled. I'll screw it up, maybe he can rephrase it, but it is something like this: this should be a place where bolts are not argued over. Where people don't run up, do a super-bold FA with the odd tied off knob and after proclaiming their climbing brilliance, say that no one can add any bolts to their awesome FA. Now some of you in the current email loop know that I've been sort of known for having an anti-bolting tirade thing going at The Far Side: which is also in the process of being outed. Please realize that mentality is also in support of the person who discovered and turned me onto that spot, and that these locations are different as night and day. So are my attitudes. Coethedral, this place, will be a place where all of Ben's bros, all climbing bros, can enjoy some bolted knob routes and treat each other with respect, dignity and in a mutually supportive environment. It's everyone's place now, but mostly yours. You guys be sure and thank Benny when you see him for the dream and his vision. regards Bill ps, I'd like to thank my bros for renaming it from Cathedral to Coethedral. I don't have that kind of imagination but it's a fantastic name given that there's already a "Cathedral" in every state of the union probably including Iowa and most likely Puerto Rico too, and maybe like 12 of the damn things in California - 4 in Yosemite alone. When I think "Cathedral", I want to think classic New Hampshire and Whitehorse anyway.

DaaaBulls! DaaaaBears!! DaBeaconnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!

HAHAHAHAH....Wait....he's not a Muslim? Didn't he want to move the White House to the 9/11 location and live there with all of the Ayatollahs........ I mean, that might be the rumor I just started. It's OK, they say 20% of the people in Kentucky can't locate their state on a map. Once the word Kentucky is pointed out to them, 10% of the 20 are still unsure. Another new internet stat I just made up for you. ps, google Chode or Choad for enlightenment on your question.

I figured you'd have signed up before you posted. Sorry!

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I'm sure he's kidding. You can't be yoinging around in a gear shop when ya want to be be racking up mileage out on the rock. Plaidman would be a good great tour guide though.

Mito, that's not my pic I just borrowed it off the net. Sorry! Anyone ever recon the significant cliff on Humbug Mt? Looks to be @ 1000 foot high, but the topo lines are more like 400-600 foot range. I think I'll take a bike ride into there at some point. Could maybe use some company if anyone is into it. The rock at Saddle could be done....but...it's very sharp conglomerate, you'd get hurt bad in any non-overhanging fall....even I have standards, as low as they are. LOL! BTW, Jeff Thomas said he thought Bob McGown had done some routes there. I just talked to Bob Thursday but totally forgot to ask him about what he's done down there. Bet he's done something. Take care all!

Congrats on that working out. Imagine being way out in the backwoods. Damn good thing I'm overweight. Got hit @ 200-300 (hard to count as the stings were so close in some areas) while rapping a route we were looking at last year. Unfortunately, my rope got stuck with me 20 feet below the bastards (they didn't follow) and I also had to rig a new rap point and do a 2nd rap to finally get down. We still haven't done the route, but the name is there. The Beekeeper route. They say August/late summer is when they are most aggressive, thanks for the reminder. pfft: BTW, they were Yellowjackets on the Beekeeper route, not bees.

Kind of hoping we could keep it positive and upbeat. I went out and did some laps tonight at the Butte, if you could call it that trying to work my shoulder back into shape, one of the gentleman had gone out there last weekend. Says he likes it better than Smith Rock. I squinted to see if he was bullshitting me, but I think he was straight up. ps: the picture is the great PDX climber and major dude Ben Priestly, who first went out here way back when he was in school and turned me onto the spot, and always upbeat (till that last post LOL) Plaidman. Previously reported and better pics here Scott: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/970763/Searchpage/1/Main/75866/Words/priestly/Search/true/4th_ascent_of_The_Salathe_High#Post970763 Some more info for anyone perusing.... http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/969397/Name_of_the_new_place#Post969397 Anyway, Ben had a vision of a place where people wouldn't be arguing over bolts, where routes would be crafted so that they would be challenging but with enough bolts that it wasn't crazy, and that some trad dude wouldn't just show up and wrap slings on knobs and then tell everyone else to "piss off I did it first" if it really needed to have bolts. Where peace and harmony would be the order of the day and no one ever would be hungry and the flowers were always blooming. I tried to stay true to his vision and with the exception of one route (search on keyword "Corn" in spray for that route description TR) think the place is starting to head there. Like to see that continue. I had hoped we could avoid the acrimony, arguments, anger and hate (And bolting arguments) out here at the new spot that seems too often to follow the tribe around. Interesting that on another thread it's about a spot where Jim didn't want bolts and he wanted natural gear routes to predominate. I tried to stay true to that vision as well. I haven't counted but perhaps @4 protection bolts in 30 some odd routes or so....for me, not speaking for the other routes or other folks. I'm not convinced it's the best idea, but will say that it's in a great location for it. Right off the highway, near town. While this new spot is the opposite of that. No cell service, hike out, bit of a drive to civilization. So it's a good thing not to risk it all. Anyway, thanks for the thanks Cordory Man. We all (those who have been coming out here) hope everyone appreciates, enjoys and helps each other out with no rancor when out here. That's why it's being shared. It's being shared/handed over and is your place now. Take care bros.