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Thats an improvement over your earlier idea that Elvis is aid.

Well played sir.

OMG! EEEwwwwweeeeeych!!! Blechkkkk! Mr hands

Yeah, I was replying to Steve and trying to head the anti-bolt dude off at the pass. Everytime Don steps in to something like the link below, it winds up being 27 pages like this. If he wants to continue that debate he should head over there, where you had the last post. http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/901264/27

I don't see any bolts in these road cuts. Maybe Don can find them and circle them in red?

LOL! ...but first, you need to get some serious roads in there, blast the fucking rocks all to hell and D9 the shit out of it....OF COURSE, ONCE YOU GET IT LOOKING LIKE THIS ... .....THEN START BITCHING ONLINE ABOUT BOLTS NO ONE CAN SEE - RIGHT GLADYS KRAVITS DON??? RIGHT! Nice work, carry on.

Bet you some serious money that you can't find one post of his "cheering" the wars.....

Did I say that out loud? Opps.

I KNOW, LETS JUST DO PERSONAL ATTACKS SINCE NO ONE HAS ANY ANSWER FOR THIS

Interesting and spot on article except that the Bush tax cuts for those over $250,000 need to be rescinded as part of this effort. " The Ecstasy of Empire August 16, 2010 The United States is running out of time to get its budget and trade deficits under control. Despite the urgency of the situation, 2010 has been wasted in hype about a non-existent recovery. As recently as August 2 Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner penned a New York Times column, “Welcome to the Recovery.” Without a revolution, Americans are history. As John Williams (shadowstats.com) has made clear on many occasions, an appearance of recovery was created by over-counting employment and undercounting inflation. Warnings by Williams, Gerald Celente, and myself have gone unheeded, but our warnings recently had echoes from Boston University professor Laurence Kotlikoff and from David Stockman, who excoriated the Republican Party for becoming big-spending Democrats. It is encouraging to see some realization that, this time, Washington cannot spend the economy out of recession. The deficits are already too large for the dollar to survive as reserve currency, and deficit spending cannot put Americans back to work in jobs that have been moved offshore. However, the solutions offered by those who are beginning to recognize that there is a problem are discouraging. Kotlikoff thinks the solution is savage Social Security and Medicare cuts or equally savage tax increases or hyperinflation to destroy the vast debts. Perhaps economists lack imagination, or perhaps they don’t want to be cut off from Wall Street and corporate subsidies, but Social Security and Medicare are insufficient at their present levels, especially considering the erosion of private pensions by the dot com, derivative and real estate bubbles. Cuts in Social Security and Medicare, for which people have paid 15 per cent of their earnings all their lives, would result in starvation and deaths from curable diseases. Tax increases make even less sense. It is widely acknowledged that the majority of households cannot survive on one job. Both husband and wife work and often one of the partners has two jobs in order to make ends meet. Raising taxes makes it harder to make ends meet–thus more foreclosures, more food stamps, more homelessness. What kind of economist or humane person thinks this is a solution? Ah, but we will tax the rich. The rich have enough money. They will simply stop earning. Let’s get real. Here is what the government is likely to do. Once Washington realize that the dollar is at risk and that they can no longer finance their wars by borrowing abroad, the government will either levy a tax on private pensions on the grounds that the pensions have accumulated tax-deferred, or the government will require pension fund managers to purchase Treasury debt with our pensions. This will buy the government a bit more time while pension accounts are loaded up with worthless paper. The last Bush budget deficit (2008) was in the $400-500 billion range, about the size of the Chinese, Japanese, and OPEC trade surpluses with the US. Traditionally, these trade surpluses have been recycled to the US and finance the federal budget deficit. In 2009 and 2010 the federal deficit jumped to $1,400 billion, a back-to-back trillion dollar increase. There are not sufficient trade surpluses to finance a deficit this large. From where comes the money? The answer is from individuals fleeing the stock market into “safe” Treasury bonds and from the bankster bailout, not so much the TARP money as the Federal Reserve’s exchange of bank reserves for questionable financial paper such as subprime derivatives. The banks used their excess reserves to purchase Treasury debt. These financing maneuvers are one-time tricks. Once people have fled stocks, that movement into Treasuries is over. The opposition to the bankster bailout likely precludes another. So where does the money come from the next time? The Treasury was able to unload a lot of debt thanks to “the Greek crisis,” which the New York banksters and hedge funds multiplied into “the euro crisis.” The financial press served as a financing arm for the US Treasury by creating panic about European debt and the euro. Central banks and individuals who had taken refuge from the dollar in euros were panicked out of their euros, and they rushed into dollars by purchasing US Treasury debt. This movement from euros to dollars weakened the alternative reserve currency to the dollar, halted the dollar’s decline, and financed the US budget deficit a while longer. Possibly the game can be replayed with Spanish debt, Irish debt, and whatever unlucky country is eswept in by the thoughtless expansion of the European Union. But when no countries remain that can be destabilized by Wall Street investment banksters and hedge funds, what then finances the US budget deficit? The only remaining financier is the Federal Reserve. When Treasury bonds brought to auction do not sell, the Federal Reserve must purchase them. The Federal Reserve purchases the bonds by creating new demand deposits, or checking accounts, for the Treasury. As the Treasury spends the proceeds of the new debt sales, the US money supply expands by the amount of the Federal Reserve’s purchase of Treasury debt. Do goods and services expand by the same amount? Imports will increase as US jobs have been offshored and given to foreigners, thus worsening the trade deficit. When the Federal Reserve purchases the Treasury’s new debt issues, the money supply will increase by more than the supply of domestically produced goods and services. Prices are likely to rise. How high will they rise? The longer money is created in order that government can pay its bills, the more likely hyperinflation will be the result. The economy has not recovered. By the end of this year it will be obvious that the collapsing economy means a larger than $1.4 trillion budget deficit to finance. Will it be $2 trillion? Higher? Whatever the size, the rest of the world will see that the dollar is being printed in such quantities that it cannot serve as reserve currency. At that point wholesale dumping of dollars will result as foreign central banks try to unload a worthless currency. The collapse of the dollar will drive up the prices of imports and offshored goods on which Americans are dependent. Wal-Mart shoppers will think they have mistakenly gone into Neiman Marcus. Domestic prices will also explode as a growing money supply chases the supply of goods and services still made in America by Americans. The dollar as reserve currency cannot survive the conflagration. When the dollar goes the US cannot finance its trade deficit. Therefore, imports will fall sharply, thus adding to domestic inflation and, as the US is energy import-dependent, there will be transportation disruptions that will disrupt work and grocery store deliveries. Panic will be the order of the day. Will farms will be raided? Will those trapped in cities resort to riots and looting? Is this the likely future that “our” government and “our patriotic” corporations have created for us? To borrow from Lenin, “What can be done?” Here is what can be done. The wars, which benefit no one but the military-security complex and Israel’s territorial expansion, can be immediately ended. This would reduce the US budget deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars per year. More hundreds of billions of dollars could be saved by cutting the rest of the military budget which, in its present size, exceeds the budgets of all the serious military powers on earth combined. US military spending reflects the unaffordable and unattainable crazed neoconservative goal of US Empire and world hegemony. What fool in Washington thinks that China is going to finance US hegemony over China? The only way that the US will again have an economy is by bringing back the offshored jobs. The loss of these jobs impoverished Americans while producing oversized gains for Wall Street, shareholders, and corporate executives. These jobs can be brought home where they belong by taxing corporations according to where value is added to their product. If value is added to their goods and services in China, corporations would have a high tax rate. If value is added to their goods and services in the US, corporations would have a low tax rate. This change in corporate taxation would offset the cheap foreign labor that has sucked jobs out of America, and it would rebuild the ladders of upward mobility that made America an opportunity society. If the wars are not immediately stopped and the jobs brought back to America, the US is relegated to the trash bin of history. Obviously, the corporations and Wall Street would use their financial power and campaign contributions to block any legislation that would reduce short-term earnings and bonuses by bringing jobs back to America. Americans have no greater enemies than Wall Street and the corporations and their prostitutes in Congress and the White House. The neocons allied with Israel, who control both parties and much of the media, are strung out on the ecstasy of Empire. The United States and the welfare of its 300 million people cannot be restored unless the neocons, Wall Street, the corporations, and their servile slaves in Congress and the White House can be defeated. Without a revolution, Americans are history. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is the father of Reaganomics and the former head of policy at the Department of Treasury. He is a columnist and was previously the editor of the Wall Street Journal. His latest book, “How the Economy Was Lost: The War of the Worlds,” details why America is disintegrating."

I think I've got it now, thanks everyone for the help. Let see if I have it down yet. Bad dog no biscuit! Lycra and no helmet, sure you look stylish, *cough* cough* if it was still the 80's I mean. Good dog's. When they get kicked through a goalpost from 40 years out for humping your girlfriends leg and making it look like a glazed donut, they'll still be safe. Bad dog, you have the helmet now but don't chop the rope and drop my backpack from 200' up Opps:-) No biscuit! Good dog - fetch me that beer!

3" screen G? In either case, post anywhere and everywhere Mufster, nice to see you around!

He means The Far Side. I was up at higher elevations so have no clue about it, but I could see heat prostration, wasn't it like suppose to be 97 degrees in the valley yesterday? Ozone and The Far Side would be full on sun all day. In either case, I heard it was at the Ozone. Hope the person will be OK.

Great stuff!

Yeah, I read what you wrote the other day, you called this one.....as if on cue.... I actually have close to zero knowledge of state budgets. This is something which state legislators apportion. I've seen some of the huge mandatory overcommitments to PERS retirement funds some states carry, but truthfully, do not know where it falls in the budget percentagewise etc. I see these kinds of story's all the time: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Sunday_Reflections/Public-sector-employees-are-the-new-fat-cats-93125624.html 5500 people ....Wow! That's a huge impact.

2 words: Psyco Bitch. Investigators Question Attendant's Tale By SEAN GARDINER And TAMER EL-GHOBASHY Investigators probing the circumstances surrounding a JetBlue flight attendant's outburst and exit from a plane at Kennedy Airport are beginning to question the narrative that he was provoked by an injury suffered during a confrontation with an unruly passenger, according to Port Authority officials with knowledge of the investigation. The officials said Steven Slater's assertion that he was hit in the head by luggage or an overhead bin door while trying to assist an abusive passenger with her oversize bag isn't being corroborated by other passengers. Investigators believe such a passenger may not exist and that he could have received the gash on his forehead before he boarded the flight in Pittsburgh. "There's certainly a decent amount of doubt at this point," said a Port Authority official familiar with the investigation. JetBlue is also in the dark. The Wall Street Journal reviewed a memo to employees that says, "Was there an altercation on the flight that precipitated or motivated Mr. Slater's action? It's unclear." Port Authority police have been interviewing passengers since the incident Monday when Mr. Slater delivered an expletive-laced resignation from his job on the flight's public-address system before leaving the jet on the inflatable emergency chute in the back of the plane, officials said. So far, none of the passengers interviewed told police that they witnessed Mr. Slater being injured, said a law-enforcement official with knowledge of the case. A JetBlue flight attendant activated an emergency slide after a confrontation with a passenger on a plane, grabbed cans of beer from the aircraft's galley and slid down the chute before taking off in his car. Video courtesy of Fox News. "I think this is moving toward a working theory of it never happened," he said. "There are some people who have said he came on board the aircraft with injuries." Officers involved in Mr. Slater's arrest say when they arrived at his Queens home about an hour after he grabbed two beers and hit the chute that his eyes were blood shot, he smelled of alcohol and was unsteady on his feet, the official said. Passengers interviewed by the Journal said Mr. Slater acted strangely during the flight and cursed at one passenger as she exited at Kennedy Airport. Marjorie Briskin, a 53-year-old passenger, said the flight attendant continued to curse at the young woman even as she walked away through the jetway. Asked if Mr. Slater was drunk at any point during the flight, his attorney, Howard Turman, said "no." Mr. Turman, speaking at a news conference in front of Mr. Slater's home, reiterated the story that Mr. Slater was injured while intervening between "a number of passengers who were competing for space in the overhead bins with great difficulty. There was a great deal of shoving. Steven came over to assist and was hit in the head either by a bag or the overhead bin, which is when he received the injury." That episode on the ground in Pittsburgh led to the dramatic exit in New York, the attorney said. "The woman was upset because one of her carry-on bags was checked," Mr. Turman, a legal-aid attorney, said as Mr. Slater stood by his side nodding. "There was a lack of civility on the part of one person." Mr. Turman suggested Mr. Slater was seeking a plea bargain and said he has had "preliminary discussions" with the Queens District Attorney's office. Those negotiations couldn't be confirmed with the district attorney's office Thursday. Mr. Slater, 38, who was charged with criminal mischief, reckless endangerment and trespassing, has been cast as a working-class hero by some in the media and on the Internet for telling off rude passengers and then quitting in style. Mr. Turman said his client, who pleaded not guilty to the charges, appreciates the support but isn't enjoying the spotlight and only wants to return to aviation. "This is a man who only cares about his industry, the airline industry," Mr. Turman said. "He wants to thank JetBlue. It is a wonderful airline. Steven loves working for them and wishes to continue working for them." JetBlue has said that Mr. Slater has been suspended. —Kavita Mokha contributed to this article."

Holy crap. What are all these folks going to do? I guess the local democrats are imitating the national democrats on this issue? "Let them eat cake!" Wow. Washington cuts 5500 off LINK Gregoire Orders 5,500 Families Cut From Welfare Rolls Austin Jenkins | August 12, 2010 | Olympia, WA More than 5,000 Washington families will lose their welfare benefits starting in February. That's just one of the cuts Governor Chris Gregoire ordered Thursday to keep the state budget from going into the red. Despite a half billion dollar bailout from the feds, Washington state's budget is still in peril. So Governor Gregoire is getting out the budget shears. Washington's welfare program – called WorkFirst – is one area where the Democratic governor has ordered deep reductions. That includes enforcing a strict five-year limit on receiving welfare benefits – even for families who are in compliance with welfare rules and actively looking for a job. Robin Zukoski Zoo-kosk-key with Columbia Legal Services calls that draconian. Robin Zukoski: "By definition these are the families that are the hardest to work with and the ones who face the most barriers and challenges to entering the world of work and they are the most vulnerable and they are the one who are going to be losing their benefits." Also under the Governor's cuts, more than 2,000 working families in Washington will lose their child care subsidies starting in October. Gregoire's social services director calls the cuts "painful," yet "necessary."

Hot British Beavers with pics

There was a rumor that Mad Rock had bought CCH (and Fish products) and was going to start up production in 2011 of Aliens. The prices started dropping. Vegastradguy at RC.com just came back from the outdoor retailer show and Mad Rock told him that was not true. At least that's one thing in the cog. Another might be that Aliens really rock on Yosemite big wall aid, and spring was a bunch of dudes running around trying to buy the pieces to fill out recommended racks for valley wall routes, as currently its too hot to climb in the valley, and folks are up in the high country doing free routes, that demand has softened. Plus a bunch of folks saw the pricing and started selling.....

I hardly consider myself a democrat although I do vote for an occasional one. This was set up a long time in advance. Read this thoroughly and see what your argument is on it: http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/10-republican-lies-about-bush-tax-cuts Bottom line for me, concentrating the wealth in the hands of a few is a recipe for disaster. Furthermore, not only were those cuts not needed at the time as the economy was fine, those cuts did not stimulate, and worst of all we borrowed the money from the Chinese to make them. WT hell? Now we are (all of us, you too) in hock up to our necks. Unfortunately, behind the curtain is the ongoing devastation which US manufacturing has seen in the last 10 years. That's been bipartisan, even Clinton was in on it, but at least when he was President he was balancing the budget and consumers were seeing an increase in their living standard as free trade brought prices down. As international wage competition continues to heat up, and mfg goes toward the lowest cost labor on the planet, money is shifting to the wealthy and it's a perfect storm shaping up here I'm afraid. The entitlement and belligerence of our fellow citizens will be the wild card here, you can even see this on this board. Not a good thing. We need to get our act together as soon as possible, the longer this mess goes on, the worse it will be. Tonights Bloomberg news: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-11/u-s-is-bankrupt-and-we-don-t-even-know-commentary-by-laurence-kotlikoff.html "U.S. Is Bankrupt and We Don't Even Know It: Laurence Kotlikoff By Laurence Kotlikoff - Aug 10, 2010 6:00 PM PT Aug. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Laurence Kotlikoff, an economics professor at Boston University, talks about the state of the U.S. economy. Kotlikoff speaks with Erik Schatzker on Bloomberg Television's InsideTrack." (Source: Bloomberg) "Let’s get real. The U.S. is bankrupt. Neither spending more nor taxing less will help the country pay its bills. What it can and must do is radically simplify its tax, health-care, retirement and financial systems, each of which is a complete mess. But this is the good news. It means they can each be redesigned to achieve their legitimate purposes at much lower cost and, in the process, revitalize the economy. Last month, the International Monetary Fund released its annual review of U.S. economic policy. Its summary contained these bland words about U.S. fiscal policy: “Directors welcomed the authorities’ commitment to fiscal stabilization, but noted that a larger than budgeted adjustment would be required to stabilize debt-to-GDP.” But delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010 Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.” The fiscal gap is the value today (the present value) of the difference between projected spending (including servicing official debt) and projected revenue in all future years. To put 14 percent of gross domestic product in perspective, current federal revenue totals 14.9 percent of GDP. So the IMF is saying that closing the U.S. fiscal gap, from the revenue side, requires, roughly speaking, an immediate and permanent doubling of our personal-income, corporate and federal taxes as well as the payroll levy set down in the Federal Insurance Contribution Act. Such a tax hike would leave the U.S. running a surplus equal to 5 percent of GDP this year, rather than a 9 percent deficit. So the IMF is really saying the U.S. needs to run a huge surplus now and for many years to come to pay for the spending that is scheduled. It’s also saying the longer the country waits to make tough fiscal adjustments, the more painful they will be. Is the IMF bonkers? No. It has done its homework. So has the Congressional Budget Office whose Long-Term Budget Outlook, released in June, shows an even larger problem. ‘Unofficial’ Liabilities Based on the CBO’s data, I calculate a fiscal gap of $202 trillion, which is more than 15 times the official debt. This gargantuan discrepancy between our “official” debt and our actual net indebtedness isn’t surprising. It reflects what economists call the labeling problem. Congress has been very careful over the years to label most of its liabilities “unofficial” to keep them off the books and far in the future. For example, our Social Security FICA contributions are called taxes and our future Social Security benefits are called transfer payments. The government could equally well have labeled our contributions “loans” and called our future benefits “repayment of these loans less an old age tax,” with the old age tax making up for any difference between the benefits promised and principal plus interest on the contributions. The fiscal gap isn’t affected by fiscal labeling. It’s the only theoretically correct measure of our long-run fiscal condition because it considers all spending, no matter how labeled, and incorporates long-term and short-term policy. $4 Trillion Bill How can the fiscal gap be so enormous? Simple. We have 78 million baby boomers who, when fully retired, will collect benefits from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid that, on average, exceed per-capita GDP. The annual costs of these entitlements will total about $4 trillion in today’s dollars. Yes, our economy will be bigger in 20 years, but not big enough to handle this size load year after year. This is what happens when you run a massive Ponzi scheme for six decades straight, taking ever larger resources from the young and giving them to the old while promising the young their eventual turn at passing the generational buck. Herb Stein, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under U.S. President Richard Nixon, coined an oft-repeated phrase: “Something that can’t go on, will stop.” True enough. Uncle Sam’s Ponzi scheme will stop. But it will stop too late. And it will stop in a very nasty manner. The first possibility is massive benefit cuts visited on the baby boomers in retirement. The second is astronomical tax increases that leave the young with little incentive to work and save. And the third is the government simply printing vast quantities of money to cover its bills. Most likely we will see a combination of all three responses with dramatic increases in poverty, tax, interest rates and consumer prices. This is an awful, downhill road to follow, but it’s the one we are on. And bond traders will kick us miles down our road once they wake up and realize the U.S. is in worse fiscal shape than Greece. Some doctrinaire Keynesian economists would say any stimulus over the next few years won’t affect our ability to deal with deficits in the long run. This is wrong as a simple matter of arithmetic. The fiscal gap is the government’s credit-card bill and each year’s 14 percent of GDP is the interest on that bill. If it doesn’t pay this year’s interest, it will be added to the balance. Demand-siders say forgoing this year’s 14 percent fiscal tightening, and spending even more, will pay for itself, in present value, by expanding the economy and tax revenue. My reaction? Get real, or go hang out with equally deluded supply-siders. Our country is broke and can no longer afford no- pain, all-gain “solutions.” (Laurence J. Kotlikoff is a professor of economics at Boston University and author of “Jimmy Stewart Is Dead: Ending the World’s Ongoing Financial Plague with Limited Purpose Banking.” The opinions expressed are his own.)"

That looks like it might end poorly. How about: Little bit more obvious.

Anyone ever do or know of any routes at Saddle Mountain in the Oregon Coast range? I'm thinking a look/see is in order this weekend. Anyone looked? Whadda think? (other than the ice in that pic is long gone )

Are they working on the schools next?

I'm with Jeff. Nice work and thanks for sharing it!

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