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LOL, Fox viewers are NOT misinformed. I accepted Stewarts claim, as did interviewer Chris Wallace. "Near to the bottom" would have been accurate though. The Yahoo article is overstating and sensationalizing the issue, most likely to gain readers, like Stewart suggests is the problem with the regular media. PolitiFact shreds Jon Stewart’s Fox News misinformation claim By Joe Pompeo "Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers?" Jon Stewart asked Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" this weekend. "The most consistently misinformed? Fox, Fox viewers, consistently, every poll." Wrong! The truth-vetting project PolitiFact looked into the "Daily Show" host's sweeping claim since Wallace himself did not challenge it. It "found three surveys since 2007 that shed some light on how informed Fox viewers are compared to consumers of other media"--none of which ranked the Fox News audience at the bottom of the misinformation barrel, even if the network did score low in certain areas pertaining to accuracy. "In several of the surveys, Fox isn't the lowest," PolitiFact concluded, "and other general-interest media outlets--such as network news shows, network morning shows and even the other cable news networks--often score similarly low. Meanwhile, particular Fox shows--such as The O'Reilly Factor and Sean Hannity's show--actually score consistently well, occasionally even outpacing Stewart's own audience." You can read the entire study here and watch the clip with Wallace above. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110621/ts_yblog_thecutline/politifact-shreds-jon-stewarts-fox-news-misinformation-claim http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/

LOL!

THANKS for the heads up....but your link, much like the GriGri 2's, is not working Chad. "REQUESTED PAGE NOT FOUND 404 ERROR" This one is active. http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/us/recall-replacement-grigri-2 "Petzl has issued a Recall for Replacement for all Petzl GRIGRI 2 units with the first five digits of the serial number between 10326 and 11136. Petzl recently became aware that excessive force applied to the lowering handle in the open position can cause internal damage that can disable the GRIGRI 2's assisted braking function. As a precautionary measure, Petzl is asking for the return of all affected GRIGRI 2's, to be replaced with revised versions. To date, seven such damaged GRIGRI 2’s have been reported worldwide, and no incidents as a result of this damage have been reported. If you have a GRIGRI 2 with a serial number in this range, please stop use immediately and contact Petzl America at 1 (800) 932-2978 (toll free) or grigri2recall@petzl.com to initiate an exchange. For more information, please visit: http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/us/recall-replacement-grigri2 While the potential risk of an incident due to this issue with the GRIGRI 2 is small, our total commitment to the safety of our users has led us to make this decision. With the summer climbing season just beginning, Petzl understands that this recall comes at an inconvenient time and we are working hard to ensure that everyone receives their replacement GRIGRI 2 as quickly as possible. Everyone at Petzl is committed to resolving this issue. We ask you to accept our sincerest apologies for this inconvenience, and we thank you for your continued support. Please note that, to ensure we can respond to all questions, Petzl will not be answering questions directly on these forums. We ask that you direct any questions for Petzl on this matter directly to the email address and toll-free number above. - Justin Roth Communications Manager Petzl America http://www.petzl.com"

Great post and point JB. I'm totally a believer in this, but would also note that the same thing applies to the internet, and in fact, we all may be letting cognitive functions drop off as so much gets recorded by computer, we don't have to remember shit these days. Hmmm, anyway, thank you for that on the money post! http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/13/6851542-watching-jersey-shore-might-make-you-dumber-study-suggests

All true, read it here. "13 places google doesn't want you to see". (this is 13 total worldwide, however, one is on the Wa/Or border.) Enjoy http://www.trutv.com/conspiracy/government-lies/google/gallery.html

Great link and exchange 111, thanks for the post. Worth watching for sure. Love them both (Stewart and Wallace)...we all have to realize that they are filtering, and this discourse certainly has them each reinforcing that for the full time. In fact, Fox, as "news" comes off bad for that reason. Stewart rules. His stuff got weak after Bush left office for a bit, but it's coming around. Love that question Stewart tosses out and instead of answering Wallace runs the Pam Anderson/Tommy Lee clip (15:37, pretty funny though) as if to totally reinforce the exact thing Stewart had just said of the regular news consistently disappointing viewers....... 2 super Jews for sure. Wonder if Joblo shows up on this thread now with the "anti-smite" sthick....

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/federal-reserve-bank-ownership/ Kevin, even if there was ever a Rothschild plot to take over the world 150 years ago, I'd seriously doubt it would survive the generations. Once rich folks get an incredible amount of scratch built up, the succeeding generations who didn't have to take a wagon through the dump for their $ and scratch and claw for every nickle all tend to park their money and coast. Ownership in this instance would be difficult to ascertain but you could start by looking up stock symbols of the publicly traded banks. http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2011/05/removing-myths-about-who-owns-the-federal-reserve-bank/ http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/04/26/who-owns-the-fed/The rest of us now know that it's the Bilderberg group and the Illuminati who are doing the control things......

LOL, I'd leave it on for a bit man.....maybe double up on the thickness.....this shit might rub off joblo and get all over one of us....could go real bad. The chart was from 1976 and I wouldn't ever bet against Joseph.

Copying and pasting Joblos words into google gets this more fleshed out version of his gig. ( on multiple web sites, I randomly picked this one) http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-Life/HowRothschildFamilyControlsFED/HowRothschildFamilyControlsFED.htm Thousands of words and multiple charts including this one.

I already had. Still don't understand, and am rapidly getting to be beyond caring as well as I'm not expecting an answer and will be checking out of this pointless conversation.

anti= against smite=strike a blow or conquer i m anti-blow , anti-conquest. your filters need to be cleaned! As you seem to an anti-fact based person, and although I'm trying to disengage from this tractor beam of stupidity strategy you have going: I still have to ask what this means?

I didn't think JL had his panties in a twist as much as he asking for info. He said he didn't want a shit storm, so maybe we can all play nice. For myself, I wasn't going to post as I hadn't seen the line, but figured that Smith has it's own little gig going. I would suspect that Danny and Steve wouldn't give a rats a** about it if they were to wander by. LOL... I did New Testament a month or so ago, folks wandered over asked if it was OK as I was starting to rack for it and I told them it's fine we can share - blah blah, but to go ahead. so he got a couple bolts up BBQ before I left the dirt...we literally had a traffic jam near the top and were eyeball to eyeball, he graciously insisted I go first as I had gotten to the base first and he'd been dogging his way up and wanted to hang and shake out anyway, but a fall from the crux of Testament as it then angled to the right and exactly over the top of this guy would have had been onto this fellas lap and not a good thing. This looks further apart. It would be nice if it had it's own rappel station where you could get down with a single rope though.

You have a severe shortage of actual facts joblo. I'd like to see a refutation of Josephs Mitterand comment (even though it's an opinion HE tossed out and didn't offer supporting links or documentation) How about bring some facts to the actual discourse on if the Rothschilds are controlling all this and murdering the Presidents who oppose them. Facts, they differ from opinions. Your link, for instance, was all opinion. The guy has it going very good till he got to this part: I don't believe that is correct, nor does it take into account the balance of trade, which is what could actually easily and quickly pay off the national debt once the accounts are balanced and we stop spending more than we borrow. China, for instance, is in this enviable position right now and they are piling up dollars and euros hand over fist. It's a very well written opinion piece, with a lot of truth to it. But that says NOTHING about the main topic you brought here. You might be thinking it does, but by itself it doesn't, not at all. You pitched the idea that the Rothschilds are murdering Presidents who disagree with them. I'm as much a sucker for a good conspiracy theory as the next guy, but I want some real facts. The book "An Act of State" by William Pepper, Hardcover under $3.00 on Amazon.com LINK for instance, is loaded with facts, dates, names and testimony sworn in court by over 70 witness's and it conclusively proves that King was murdered by a consistory, and not by James Earl Ray despite the earlier conviction of Ray (who had claimed he was set up). The Martin Luther King murder conspricy was proven in a US court of law, (Ray, a low life set up as the patsy) never lived to enjoy full vindication though and died in prison. This book should be read by every citizen as it is beyond astounding and beyond shocking as it is true, proven by facts, dates, witness's. Your post, on the other hand - is the total opposite of that. Vague innuendo, no facts, opinion. When confronted with evidence that is contrary to your view, you ignore it and move onto the next subject. Go find some facts on this thesis and share them here, or admit that you are wrong about the Rothschilds controlling world banking and move on. Take care

Or maybe Martin Luther Kings execution by the same cabal of people.

If you can't intelligent say what you mean, specifically, as it relates to the content, and have to resort to a personal attack, it really only brands you as a total dumbass. I have seen posts from you that would lead me to believe that isn't really the case for you. However, from this post, one would never know. Watch the video he links, and read his words slowly and it's all pretty clear. But the rest of us are calling bullshit till there is some real evidence. Joblo, what do you say to my earlier refutation to the vid based on the Kennedy quote?

"HALF OFF ALL BACK HAIR".....

Schweet! Everyone owes you a debt of thanks for both the cleaning and breaking off all the marginal rock!

Looks amazing! Thanks for sharing.

Oh shite, I just swapped East/West. Sorry. You have it right.

Walk down the road to the west till the guardrail starts, count @ 10 guardrail uprights and step over the guardrail into the trail. First 9 feet are a little steep, then it's all old man gentle the rest of the way, better than the east side. Adam is down there tuning up for his Europee-n vacation (previews available here) with Amy coming up soon wherein they will rent a mini-van and in a youthful lovefest of joy and happiness hit all the major climbing areas of Europe like two crazed rabbits in love. Woot!

The large Metolius Supercam goes from 2.62 - 4.67”. http://www.e-omc.com/catalog/products/1294/Metolius-Supercam.html?avad=1768_c1c00a45 What size range did the old Camelots go to? The old #5 Wild Country friends went from 84-138mm.

LOL, I use to have nothing - saved it all for the kids. Then one day I woke up and thought "Fuck them", let them go work for it too:-) Fortunately I said it nicely because guess who's going to be hooking me up with the pro deals now:-) HMMMMMM, Shiney gear, HMMMM< It's a good point in the article.

FACT: I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED AT: You loaned out a #9? Wow! Ben has Plaidmans #4 Big Bro too, so that's probably enough boat anchors to wear around the neck:-) Ivan - I'll send you guys Adams contact info. He's in the valley and can step up and in if you need him due to foot repair issues. He'd love to join the hunt if it presents itself.

Kenny is pissed. Joesph is an asshole. Yer gonna die. The end. When do you leave for the valley?

SUCKED BACK IN. FACT: KENNY THE HATE TRANE IS GOING THE WRONG DERECTION BRAH! Kenny. If I have something to say to someone I try and say it to their face. I've had folks tell me I'm an asshole to my face cause of this bad habit of mine and I'm fine with that. So don’t you talk for Jim or for me on the Internet. Jim has something to say he can say it his own damn self. Of course there are exceptions to that like right now cause I won't be seeing you for a while. I don't and won't speak for Jim, Tim, Kevin or anyone so I'm not going to get trolled into JH's thing about them or what they are doing like his post above. Jim, Tim, You and everyfucking one else can say what the fuck you want and don't need me to be a spokesperson for them. I do not recall not telling JH my thoughts when I have been face to face with him, and in this instance I can tell you that what I said above is on the money right. I don't want anyone falling off the top due to stupidity, mine or theirs. Joesph isn’t my friend but JH is right and correct in this instance. You don’t think so? JH knows how I feel about this and you don’t. So you go scrape up the next body. It’s not any fun dude. Pick up a couple of bodies and then we’ll talk, it’s a very serious matter to anyone with a dead loved one and I don’t want to look back on my words through the eyes of some survivors in that kind of an environment and see stupidity and snarkyness. I’m only speaking for me here. You and everyone else can and do what they want. Frankly Timetraveler cracks me up, but that kind of diatribe online isn’t for me. As far as this area being in the guidebook disagreement Joseph wants to start. I think we might have had that discussion face to face as well, but certainly we have already disagreed on the net about it. So what is the point of saying he’s just being a selfish prick for wanting to keep it all for himself other than just to be antagonistic? Frankly, I have cliffs I’m keeping secret too so I’d just be another lip-flapping hypocrite anyway. For myself, I believe that Jim has something down right, and it’s this: we have a duty to others. It might extend to digging out some routes, helping them learn or just being there for them if we can. Jim more than others lives this, I can’t, and it can be frustrating when you are on the way to a line you want to crank out real bad and Jim tosses out the anchor to gently, kindly and generously help some dumb ass-noob that is almost beyond help. However - it is also inspiring. I have suggested above, twice, that I hoped JH helped these noobs, cause they sounded too stupid to have helped themselves. I wasn’t there, maybe he did. Maybe he didn’t. So yeah, as you say Kenny - JH did solo a 5.9 in the dark and the cold down in Red Rocks to save some very grateful people who’d screwed the pooch. And yeah, he hiked in from the exit cause the loop road was closed being 3:30am and all. With that as a background I suspect and hope that he helped in the situation as well. Oh, in case I wasn’t clear: don’t speak for me, ever, if I want to say something I’ll say it. In fact, I just reread what I posted above and I'm fine with it.