billcoe

Iains back!!!

________________________________________________ An elderly couple go to the Doctors office because the husband isn't feeling well. The nurse asks the man to fill out the usual forms. The old guys looks at his wife and says "WHAT DID SHE SAY"? The wife says "I NEED TO FILL OUT SOME FORMS". And she did. Later after the Dr has examined the man, the Dr. says "Well, I'll need a stool sample, a Urine sample and a Semen sample." The old guys looks at his wife and says "WHAT DID HE SAY"? The wife responds.... "HE SAID GIVE HIM YOUR UNDERPANTS".

i thought everyone knew who The Commander was? I'm a clam. These dudes don't know jack S* Rudy, your secret is safe with me.

Don't you want the "state the obvious" thread.

No idea. I was there with Ujhan and Stan Millar and after toping out YW we headed out. Must have been @ 11:30am when we left as we didn't see a thing. Must have happened after - we were pretty warm/hot. Hope everything is OK. Didn't see it on the news, maybe you have a link Phillip? I did see this which I find damn strange: Wash. man's neck broken at Yankee Stadium Paul Robinson, 53, of Kirkland, Wash., was sitting in the stadium's steep upper deck with his wife and 13-year-old son last Sunday when an unidentified fan standing above him took a violent tumble down several rows of seats. "His neck is in a big brace. He's not paralyzed. Luckily, the surgery was very, very successful," said Steven Osborne, a spokesman for Montefiore Medical Center. "And this is a miracle, because that vertebrae, if you go a fraction of an inch, you're paralyzed, or you can't breathe." The man crashed into Robinson's head, breaking his vertebrae, then came to rest in the next row. "It felt like my head had been ripped off," Robinson told the Daily News from his hospital bed. EMT's took Robinson to the hospital, where surgeons put a screw in his neck to help it heal." _______________________________________________________ Sorry not to be of any help.

"13/07/2007 23:23:33 A major search operation for an American man who fell 70 feet into the sea off the Kerry coast is winding down for the night and due to resume at first light The missing man is 32 year old Michael Reardon, from Connecticut... one of the world's leading Free Soloists...that is... rock climbers who climb without the aid of any safety equpment. He and a friend had just climbed the scenic spot Wireless Point, on the north side of Valentia Island, when Mr Reardon slipped into the water... aplunge of 70 feet. Mr Reardon is also a well known filmmaker and writer in the US." link

So maybe not stolen it sounds like. Sorry, false alarm.

I suspect Don feels like I do 512dude. I appreciate how gracious and concilatory you are being too btw. We have both said our piece, completely and honestly. From this point on, were just gonna start to feel like dogs barkin at the garbageman. It's ineffective to just keep jackin' on and on. Maybe we can just start cutting and pasting our points? Kev: you don't poke sharp sticks at sleeping pit bulls behind low fences by any chance do ya? Something about sleeping dawgs lie...

Prince has their spot.

No ya don't, cause then you'd want teeth next, then pants that don't have holes, then shoes: then you'd get all uppity and be too high and mighty good for the rest of us. Best just stay the way ya are: perfect.

Prince at 28 and John Lennon at 38 is a glaring rat turd in a sugar bowl.

I got suspicious. Is this someones shit? This could be a valid sale. It might not even be stolen. But I saw the origonal post said "Cash Only", When I asked if I could get a picture and got this " No, but even if you are familiar with gear you could not tell much from photos- in my opinion. It has all been well taken care of and much has not seen a lot of usage." Hmmmm: I said that all the ebay stuff has pics and it is very helpful and heard nothing back. Hmmmmm. If this looks like your stuff, go get at it. Link "Rock/Mountaineering Climbing Gear Reply to: sale-370779933@craigslist.org Date: 2007-07-10, 10:46AM PDT Rock climbing and Mountaineering Gear Big Bro #1 $45 Black Diamond Hexes: 1-5 $7 each Metolius Fat Cams: 2,3,4 ($25 each) 5, ($40 each) ALL = $100 DMM nuts: #10, #9, #8,#7 (3),#6 (2),#5 (2), #4,#3,#2,#1 $5 EACH or $55 ALL Black Diamond nuts: 11,9,8,7,6,5 $5 EACH $25 all Metolius Cams: #1-8 (2 #7 and #8) 1-5 ($25 each) 6-8($40 each) all 10 = $270 Pre-Recall- Aliens 3 $30 each All= $80 BD Camalots: .4,.5,.75, 1 ($35 each) All 4=$120 Camp tricams(2) $8 each Ball and Wedge Micro units: (5) $25 each OR $110 all Splitter Gear cams: (3) $25 each or $65 All Ropes: (2) Both 50M/no leader falls; New 10mm w/bag $110; used 6 times 10mm $90, Both = $185 Runners/Quickdraws (some new, some used) various lengths: $3.50/each, 6/more = $3 each ‘biners $4.50 each, $4 for 10 or more Gear Slings (3) Black Diamond $15; Metolious $25; A-5 Double for aid climbing $45 Metolius aiders (1 set) $25, Bolt kit $50, Screamers (3) $7 each, Helmet (1) $15, Harnesses (2) Black Diamond “Alpine Bod” $20 (only worn 6 times); Blue Water $15 Petzl Reversino $15 Mountaineering Gear Black Diamond Mountaineering Axe (33") $40 SMC snow anchor $20, Outdoor Research Super Gaiters for snow and ice (new) $65, SMC crampons $70, Grivel G-10 Crampons (new) $85, Black Diamond Ice Screw (new)$25 Cash Only * Location: SE Prtld * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 370779933"

Hope not, I publically said so last time, that seemed wrong to me. Sorry. My nature I guess! I try...sigh....

Way cool Don!

First, thank you to folks like 512dude, Lucky and Rad. You dudes rule. Next to address Don's last post. You must be refering to some of the close historic ethical discussions, sorting out and partnerships like the Royal Robbins/Warren Harding Wall of the Early Morning Light? John Bacher /Ron Kauk slugfest, Todd Skinner hangdogging AND toprope rehearsal before leading(gasp!) or Tony Yaniro and about everyone else? Yes things were better then weren't they? All that anger didn't do shit. Did Warren Harding change his attitude? Todd? NO. Most new climbers? I can't say about that. I do see what you are talking about Don, and it is somewhat disturbing to me as well. This belief in some god-given right to safety. Disturbing for sure. As is watching a family of 4 and 4 more of their friends show up to toprope a 5.7 route, and watch them all mill around like dumb-assed ignorant cows in a field, unroped, at the top of the climb, staring at a deathfall, while they wait for one of their members to set it up so he can go down and then lower everybody to the ground. (this was last Tuesday). I haven't hear a peep out of you going to get a true wilderness area like Raineer on track, somehow it's fine to drag in massive earthmoving equipment and build new roads there. Shit, even 1 100 foot piece of road is a bigger negative environmental impact than all of the bolts ever placed by all climbers in their totality. But you don't say jack shit about that. Also, as long as you realize that like Ken Nichols, you are almost as far out of the mainstream thought, and are prepared for the violence that will most likely come your way should you do this act and then stand up and proudly proclaim you did such a thing. I cannot add to that, seems pretty self-centered. So have a nice day Carrie Nation.

thank you Jens.

Yup, but he won't part with it cause it's not made any more. When I was saying that Todd Skinners relatives must have sent him Todds old harness, he said he had replaced the leg loops recently, which might mean 7-8 years ago? Anyway, he always uses a backup biner.

OK, I toprope soloed "The Plum", making and clipping knots. This would have been better had I brought my 60M rope which would have reached the ground, instead of the 50 Meter rope I used: could have used somebodies stick clip there:-) especially since the crux is the first 15-20 feet. But I was dancing, soo sweet. Cleaned a bit too. You folks missed out.

Only if it reaches the ffs mid-point anchors. BTW, theres a route in Yos very similar called Adrenaline. at 5.11C with little small wireds for pro you are pumped silly and happy to see that midpoint anchor.

Phillip, bet you didn't think that this response would be so definative? Did ya? PS, you'er OK for a goat, we all know it. Relax dude. Edited to add: I'm trying to be nice here as I do not own a stick clip and may have need to borrow one at some point. You might not have seen through my strategy though had I just been quiet about it. Hmmmm

My bet that stuff is holding better than people expect. Knowing Todd Skinner was pretty self-sufficient and handy, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point he'd gotten some battery acid on his loop. But like you, can't wait to see the results.

Sweet stuff Kirby! Way to cruise successfully in climbing pants with your SO. (spoken sotto voice ala Dan Akroyd/Steve Martin style) .

The plan is to test your old manky harness and publish the results in Rock and Ice, so send those Todd Skinner looking harness in there ! Testing link to a link

Link "Help us make climbing safer and get a $25 gift certificate As climbers we err on the side of caution when it comes to our ropes, pampering and retiring them when we begin to feel uneasy, yet we belay, fall, rappel, lower and jug on our harnesses believing that these workhorses will last practically forever. But will they? No one really knows. Join Rock and Ice, ARC'TERYX and Mountain Gear in the first large-scale, used-harness testing program. Send us your worn harness of any brand and we'll pull-test it to determine how wear affects strength, with special emphasis on the belay/rappel loop and leg-loops. Once the testing is completed and the numbers crunched, Rock and Ice will publish an article on just how safe (or unsafe) those used harnesses really are. As a thank-you, once we receive your used harness, we will send you a $25 gift certificate to be redeemed at Mountain Gear for an ARC'TERYX on-line purchase. You can click here http://www.mountaingear.com/harness to find out the submission details. Thanks in advance for helping us make climbing a safer sport. Warmest regards, The ARC'TERYX Crew"