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Any of these hammers? The one of the right of the Floozie use to be Mike Jacksons.

You do? How so? ..how about this Hammer?

I give up, you know you want it. Here you go: Lil Dawgs good side (although why this is good only Lil Dawg knows, don't ask me for an explanation)

Lil Dawg thinks his other side is better. Sigh......GD, sometimes these inanimate objects just suck with these continual incessant irrational demands....but here you go. No, I won't give in to these unreasonable demands. Here's a happy bolter pic instead. Notice the Jimmy Opdycke signature line of Forrest Wall Hammers at work vis a vis the subtle interplay of rock and metal.....

For penance this Gates dude should be forced to watch this training video by Chris Rock which I think Rock did in response to the Rodney King incident. Maybe Pink needs to view it as well. [video:youtube]

LOL, sorry there -I changed my post to more accurately reflect my view of the truth. Don, I really do enjoy you (with this single issue exception of course) and I'm sorry about playing the baby Hitler card so early in the thread, but I was going for entertaining and like you I don't have the creativity or the intelligence to start fresh so I pulled this out of the same old hat as you got your tired old material:-) Didn't mean to sound so offensive! And I took Drederek post to mean just what he said, not that you should kill yourself. Bring on the mountain bike Trip Reports now!!!! ps, what Off says about starting a new thread instead of bringing this onto an existing thread also goes for me. Sure it will all wind up in spray 15 seconds after kevbone shows up, but it will be YOUR spray!! LOL And there are folks who totally get very cranky about any new bolts in this park where none have existed for 40 years on existing climbs, and I try and be respectful of their viewpoints. These are adding a large bolt to backup some well used questionable older ones. It use to be a quarry and they trashed the shit out of the place with massive blasting etc etc. Eventually, all of the evidence of that work is slowly disappearing. Their use to be a guards hut there and a hut for blasting material storage, and all that is visible is some faint, moss covered outlines of some old foundations. This too will pass, much like other civilizations and their efforts.

I heard that this year, Beacon is more horrible than any other year before. But fortunately Ozone is 75 degrees, breezy, free of insects and poison oak, and no drama. This is the rumor just starting. The lack of Oak at the Opdycke Zone might be cause I sprayed all that Oak shit and killed it dead dead dead. Their was a 40' high tree that had spread out onto the wall which Jim and those guys had yanked down with a rake. The stump is still visible there. Don't have no insect 'panation though. Maybe someone (else:-)) could organize a Beacon work party that would involve hitting the poison oak there, cause that shit keeps growing out of control. Who wants to step up and start the ranger discussion ball rolling on this? They probably have some projects or some things they want done out there which we could help them with as well. We could all show up, work our asses off all day and bang out all their projects too. It would be cool.

Thanks Doug. Spring is the worst then it tapers off to @ 50 percent late summer like now. I see the Mt Hood posts spill over on this climbing thread in the spring as well. At one time earlier this year I think there were more visible Mt Hood threads on there than everywhere else combined. Of course, 90 percent of the Oregon threads at that time are all Mt Hood. 2nd most climbed Mt in the world after Mt Fuji.

BTW, I don't know who did the rusty steel stuff here, but it seems to still be real solid years and years later, despite the scary look to it. I was trying to get one of those 3/8" rust studs out and it was resisting all my attempts at yoinkage with a 2' Crowbar.

That would be the preferred way PP. I'm following historical precedent. I think that whomever put in the first round of pro elimanted the hangers because asswipes use to just steal them for their own projects. I don't know that for a fact though. It may have been done for cost reasons as well, since they didn't use any stainless originally either. My chain is primer-painted stainless steel and the bolt is 1/2 x 6-1/4 stainless. I have hangers coming out my ears as I get them in bulk at ClimbMax cause those guys rule. Even the chains were short, as if cost was an issue. I'm just guessing though. I do know that some of the plated steel hangers on routes seemed to just disappear seemingly almost the day or so after a route was done. That may have been the first ascentionist though, as one dude was known to place and remove all pins unless the pin was total shit, then and only then would it get left.

I figured it was because you needed $ to pay your bill and were late on the payment so they turned it off. I like your explanation better. Every post improves with some hot pussy in it. Porters IT manager:

Another amazing product of the great California edumacation system. It's funny once the headache that watching the entire thing gives you goes away.

That there is a 6 star post on the 5 star rating scale JH. Here's the cartoon version for Kevbone!

Or ban him again and then we don't have to listen to this infinite non-blissful same song rant? Baby Hitler is shaking his fist for banning again. I feel that's too harsh, Don is a valuable contributor, calm down BH, calm down. Yo Dawg, the Lil Dawg (seen below) and I just added some new chains (one seen above) in a public park inside of the city limits. I should be arrested for this affront to the general population. Lord knows that they should have plenty of time to ignore the hookers having public sex, hypodermic needles, assholes throwing bottles at people from above, murders and major trauma vehicle accidents nearby so as to prevent people from enjoying this form of recreational activity? Seriously?

Contact Tim Olsen. he's re-working the guide book and said he has a few new cliffs to toss into the book. Bet this is one of them, but if it isn't, he'd appreciate hearing about it I'm sure.

Wheres these pictures?!!!

Bedtime for Democracy. That was a fun little idea for a while... Well, I don't know. Anyone can go to any hospital emergency room they want anytime they want and get care. Then you pay for it, and in a big way. Seems to me that there is plenty of room for improvement. My biggest fear is that by the time everyone in big government all toss in their pet issues, then all the big pharmas rework that, then all the healthcare insurers have their way to revise the revisions: we wind up with something which doesn't resemble anything which truly makes economic sense for the citizens who will need the benefits and we all may be hosed in a big way. Our system is designed to produce that kind of an end product.

You misunderstand. 99% of the time, when climbers discuss "wasps", they mean Yellowjackets. They have poison sacs and they sting (repeatedly if they wish unlike honeybees who get a one time shot) as a means of defense. They can bite, but that's not what they are doing to you as you get chased down the trail.

Thanks JB! Good find. Speaking only for myself, I think I truly don't know enough to make any kind of a call on the healthcare issue. I hope those better educated will make the correct choices, whatever they are.

Damn things are resorting to biting now? Shades of Mike Tyson. From the Chalkbag accessory collection.

Question for Bill and anybody else who complains about Obama's remark: Did you actually listen to or watch the press conference? I listened to his answer to that Cambridge question and he specifically said (1) he didn't know the facts, and (2) that he was NOT calling the Cambridge police racists. Yes, he said "what we do know is that they acted stupidly" or some such thing, but if you actually listened to his answer you would know that his message has been more than a little distorted for the sake of a press mess. Seriously. Turn off Rush Limbaugh and George Will and listed to the actual press conference. Then ask yourself whether you might grow "agitated" if police officers were in your home and you proved it to them and they didn't then apologize for bothering you and then exit out your door. Especially you, Mr. 2nd amendment. One might argue he should not have offered any comment at all, but that is not what most "commentators" are saying. Certainly not somebody who said Obama offered a knee jerk response. In my view, it is THAT commentator who is offering the knee jerk response. Sorry, but unlike Obama, I considered my response first. I don't believe that you read it however. Th reality is that all of us, just like the 3 principal actors in this mini-drama, bring all of our baggage to this picnic.

If true, does this figure including the time private companies must spend filing government paperwork etc etc?

Well, the President is suppose to gather all the facts before his knee jerks up. In this case he didn't and is a bit embarrassed about it, Obama realized this screw up so he came out and both apologized and invited both the black Professor and the policeman over for a beer. Both of them have accepted the invite. I suspect this is one of the things which both parties would do the same if it were to re-occur, yet neither is comfortable with the outcome. Having a beer and a handshake is a good thing and a happy way to end it I believe. Good move on Obamas part.

This anchor isn't at Beacon. However, like Dave said: this was a memorable joke from the early Jeff Thomas guidebook "Oregon Rock: A Climbers Guide" which we all laughingly perpetrate. I brought out my more recent Thomas book dated 1983 and the exact quote concerning Beacon is "As the saying goes, it's the best place to climb in Oregon, even if it is in Washington". LOL! Here's another great Jeff Thomasism from the same book which I still hear (and use myself) all the time 26 years later. "Legend has it that it never rains at Smith Rock. The fact is that the surrounding area averages 10" of rain a year." LOL!!!!!!!!!!