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Looking to do something this weekend... alpine preferably. I have a few ideas but open to suggestions. PM me

The Mountaineers take more newbies up Yellow Jacket Tower than you can shake a stick at. It's one of the worst climbs I can think of. I mean the actual climbing is good, all fifty feet of of it... but the whole way up you're dodging rockfall and eroding the hillside. An hour and a half later you get to climb all of twenty minutes. I nominate Yallow Jacket Tower for the Worst Newbie Climb

and this coming from a mountie himself!

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I may suffer from time to time, shivering, cold, sleeping on rocks, getting pelted with ice cubes and a lot worse... but all in all, there's something rewarding about climbing that I'd essentially distill down to two simple words, it's fun

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Actually, I don't think Rainier is the best peak for a newbie, at least not a cackle of em. It's a big mountain that creates its own weather, and visibility can go to zero in a snap of a finger. I think some of the lower elevation (lower commitment) peaks like the Sulphide Glacier route on Shuksan, the Cork Screw route on Sloan, Eldorado... are beter places to figure out how to walk with crampons, sort out clothing systems and route find. I dunno, just my $0.02

They look heavy, but I agree with CBS. They'd come in handy as an extra utility piece.

what's the difference between that and just pulling harder with one hand?

Sucks how hard? From demographics and what little I've found online, I suspect it's a pretty sterile Wonderbreadville Okay, that would suck pretty hard.

Who knows what about this place? I know this is in Spray, but but it wasn't necessarilly climbing related, so it seemed like the right place. I've got a serious question here. There's a job opportunity for me, and I don't know anything about the place aside from the fact that it's on the way to Tahoe. I don't know how far or whether this place is just an icky Bellevue on the way there. Spray away. Thanks...

I snowboard and agree with the above. Iceberg Gulch at Crystal is a good single black diamond. It's steep and wide and not typically too bumped as it's groomed. It's the perfect place to work on checking your speed and linking turns on a steeper face. You can also traverse out if scraping ensues

How about some beta on cheapo dirtbag lodgings. Are there hostle/dormer type flophouses anywhere nearby? I stayed at the Alpine Club of Canada in Canmore a couple weeks ago. They had a drying room, kitchen, hot showers, and it cost about $20 a night. That's good enough for me

I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a "deserter."

582, yeah!

It was COLD last week (-30C)... but probably just right now

And modeling the lastest fashions in shorts over polypro...

Wow, that looks so unreal

Try out Montrail's Ice 9 boot and crampon system. It's a pretty warm boot. There's a women's version and they come in small sizes. Ouray is Donini's home, and I'm sure Montrail will have plenty of presence there.

Jesus, where the fuck is that??

and seem rather contradictory. there's nothing cool about a guy in Dockers. Then don't wear Dockers

Nice Job Sam

I nominate this thread for the Funniest Thread of 2004

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Fuck the overpriced bars. I munch on dried fruit, fig newtons, dates... I also bring extra TP