Dr_Flash_Amazing

Never been to Vantage. But Vantage is not exactly considered a world-class climbing destination, is it?

Good rock seems pretty straightforward, i.e. is it solid?

Geek pretty much has it right. It's rather cynical to think that an area has to be packed with V12s to make it world-class, although it's true that hard routes/problems attract attention from the top dawgs, which gets attention in the mags, which draws the attention of Joe Gumby or Jaroslav Gumbjercjzowicz or Jose Gumbero to it, resulting in world-class status. You need a lot of rock (make that a lot of GOOD rock), a nice setting, variety variety variety, access, etc.

Gee, Dwayne-o, thanks EVER SO MUCH for clearing up that geographagic misunderestimation! Bolt more crax!

Trask, you're such a sensitive gentleman! Poor you ...

Ah, here it is:

Yeah, they're kind of a fave, although Heavy Petting Zoo sure wasn't. Is that pic the poster you're referring to, or was it the "eating lamb" poster, which was decidedly more ... interesting.

It's this damn non-nurturing environment that's doing it. And belay gloves are weak.

Remember the other day when YOU were boring? Yeah? Good. 'Cause you're boring again. Discuss.

Can you guys rig it so you can get back to the main page from the gallery? 'Cause right now, unless DFA missed something, once you're there you're kinda stuck.

From dictionary.com, for what it's worth: beg (bg) v. begged, beg·ging, begs v. tr. To ask for as charity: begged money while sitting in a doorway. To ask earnestly for or of; entreat: begged me for help. grov·el (grvl, grv-) intr.v. grov·eled, also grov·elled grov·el·ing, grov·el·ling grov·els, grov·els To behave in a servile or demeaning manner; cringe. To lie or creep in a prostrate position, as in subservience or humility

Nah, it's just that the jive-ass generalizations about sport climbers are pretty tired. Plenty of alpenkraggers are prone to taking themselves 70cm-ice-ax-up-the-ass seriously, which usually manifests as some kind of quip about how lame sport climbers are. Oddly, it's mighty rare to hear bolt-clippers disparaging the alpine set. What's with that?

Sweet! More well-thought-out wisdom on "how sport climbers do it"! That's what we need more of around here; some solid generalizations about how petty, egotistical, and stupid sport climbers are. Its not overgeneralization, its called the truth. Sport climbers do not have as much experience with the variety of climbing techniques as those who engage in the many other disciplines of climbing. Time for beer It's this bullshit about how sport climbers "have to have someone to blame when blah blah blah." Come on, are you really that narrow?

Dwayner climbs Bongo Fury and proclaims it "the finest climbing adventure I have ever undertaken; a five-star classic!"

Frightful winged devil-beast!

That's a doggone great idea! You'd have to be barking mad not to agree! Better go hound REI to order enough for a set of matching draws!

Sweet! More well-thought-out wisdom on "how sport climbers do it"! That's what we need more of around here; some solid generalizations about how petty, egotistical, and stupid sport climbers are.

This'll be the first and last time Trask and Dr. Flash Amazing are ever in agreement about something involving a firearm, so pay attention. Stupid-ass district attorney has his head up his arse.

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What a shame. Only seventeen more avatars left to ban!

Is that San Diego gym the one out in some industrial business park thing in BFE? Pea gravel on the floor, the bouldering "island" out in the middle, and the bouldering cave area upstairs? 'Cause that place WAS ghetto!

Dru, you'd be amazed at how easy it is to score a 1500 on the SAT using similar methodology. And graduating magna cum laude from Harvard with a double major (geotheoretical astrophysics/intercontinental anthropomorphology)? Those clowns would degrees to baboons if they could fill out the admittance forms.

Poor gym lady.