Thinker

guess you wouldn't get the free dinner, Bronco........

more for Trask:

DFA, I'm surprised that you'd actually sell anything thru 'the yard sale' and risk divulging your true identity to the masses...it's really not the kind of thing superheroes do.

A bum, who obviously has seen more than his share of hard times, approaches a well-dressed gentleman on the street. "Hey, Buddy, can you spare two dollars?" The well-dressed gentleman responds, "You are not going to spend it on liquor are you?" "No, sir, I don't drink," retorts the bum. "You are not going to throw it away in some fishing gear, are you?" asks the gentleman. "No way, I don't fish," answers the bum. "You wouldn't waste the money on climbing gear, would you?" asks the man. "Never," says the bum, "I don't climb." The man asks the bum if he would like to come home with him for a home cooked meal. The bum accepts eagerly. While they are heading for the man's house, the bum's curiosity gets the better of him. "Isn't your wife going to be angry when she sees a guy like me at your table?" "Probably," says the man, "but it will be worth it. I want her to see what happens to a guy who doesn't drink, fish or climb."

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quote: Originally posted by Dru: [QB]I believe it was scientists at Purdue University who came up with a cannon that fired chickens in order to test how well planes would react if they hit a bird in midair. QB] [ 09-19-2002, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: Thinker ]

btw,how's the arm doing, Krazy1?

working for 200 before I go home today:

My favorite:

I 2nd the motion for 'Sick Puppy' and the books by Tim Egan. This may strike your fancy, too: "The Ornament of the World" a look at how Muslim, Christian, and Jewish cultures flourished simultaneously in Spain from circa 700 to 1200 AD. Great info on how the vast wealth of scientific knowledge the Arabs acquired from the Greeks was transmitted to European 'scholars'. [ 09-19-2002, 04:55 PM: Message edited by: Thinker ]

Ryland, thanks for posting the uncut version. It gives a little more perspective on the issues you originally intended to address. Congrats on getting published, again.

Ryland, would you consider posting the original 2600 word article here or providing a link to somewhere it could be read?

How about at least posting the license plate numbers?

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Leave me out of your games. We know you're really all tied up with TLG and have no time for anyone else's games........

quote: Originally posted by erik: the social probing? i thought trask was the only one who volunteered?! He's been lucky thus far not to have gotten a social disease from all those social probings..... [ 09-18-2002, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Thinker ]

Text messages work well to say "safe for the day", and they're alot less offensive to some. In addition, they often get out when a voice conversation can't/won't for some reason.

I actually tracked down my source on this and talked to a family member. The climber is on his way to Thailand right now. Seems Thailand is marketing/targeting foreign tourists for many kinds of surgery....started out as elective surgery (sex change, etc.) and is expanding to cancer, trauma, etc. I'll post an interesting link when I find it again.

OK, I'm putting the pieces together now. When I first read the other post I thought it was a hypothetical situation, but in retrospect it was a bit more than that. Seems like the injured climber might be trying to be responsible rather than trying to play the system, I like him already.

9/20 ?? Is someone looking at the wrong month?

Havin' fun, Cletus? The primary reason I have a cell phone is for backcountry 'delays' and emergencies. After meeting a crowd of SAR guys on a descent trail who were starting to look for me because I was delayed a day, I felt it was my responsibility to have a way to communicate with the outside world so I don't needlessly drag those souls away from their desks again. "buzz, crackle, crackle, Tell the chopper to turn around, we have them here at the trailhead, crackle, bleep.." Granted, it's laughable to see people chatting away on a summit somewhere or at Muir....but it can done discretely if you feel compelled, AND they're a useful tool in many situations. The Father's Day climb I mentioned above went a little beyond what I like to do, but are you really going to tell your buddy's gf 'NO' when she asks if she can call her Dad? Besides, Baker is hardly wilderness when you can hear the snowmachines raging away a few hundred feet below the summit. [ 09-16-2002, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: Thinker ]

I don't think I saw this posted last week: from here "September 10: A Seattle climber fell about 70 feet on the lower portion of Razorback Ridge on Mt. Stuart, breaking his foot. His partner was able to lower him about 200 feet to the glacier and called CCMR at 6:00pm. Pete, Gene Ellis, Tom Ettinger and Freeman Keller flew to the site where Pete held the Huey's skids toed in to the glacier while the victim was loaded into the helicopter. The victim was flown directly to CWH, arriving after dark. The mission time from lift off at Olds to landing at CWH was 37 minutes!" I heard this guy had no insurance and is considering going to Asia (Thailand?) for surgery. Seems like cost for what he needs is aprox 50% what US hospitals would charge. The info I got is third hand. Anyone have any corroborating info?

OK, I've had a couple of people try on the shoes and they're nowhere near a women's size 8 as I originally thought. They're more like a women's 6.5. A friend who wears a street shoe size 7.5 got them on but with her toes curled. Another friend who wears street shoe size 7 thought they were a bit too snug for her. [ 09-16-2002, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: Thinker ]