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oh...and here i thought he was gluing in his own anchors...

and why should complete strangers have to deal with someone's dog on a day off at the crag? totally annoying... ...leave the dog home...

that's funny...i just heard a rumor that you like the taste of sheep...guess bob's gettin' double duty... hahahaha

you actually left the ground with your dog unleashed? Fuckin' tool...that's not cool to your dog or others...

how's that tasty pole??

In the beginning, a fellow named Dru smoked pole and in the end, a fellow named G-spotter smokes pole...

Huge or not, it can surely be described as a "serious" fall. It was essentially a FF2 fall, since all the pro pulled out and he fell on his anchor. Any FF2 fall is serious regardless of the distance fallen and I would argue, regardless of the quality of the anchor. This magnitude of fall can get away from the belayer depending on a number of factors. No tool...he led from the ground, there was an entire pitch of rope to the anchor...fall factor was not very big...

i'll be laughing for a while yet, methinks...

Were any of them headfirst? unfortunately, no...

how's that ropegun training going? Runnin' laps on GNS yet? punter...

steep limestone climbing has 30+ foot falls that are common...If you climb in France, look at routes that are called "engaging"... Buoux, Ceuse, Verdon...all have cruxes located 10 to 15 feet over bolts...with 60m pitches and slack you look at 40 footers fairly frequently...nothing to hit but air though... Head to yosemite and you will find the same situation on many common routes...or, as Joseph pointed out, Eldo, gunks, seneca, etc...

how come anyone who disagrees with you has an ego problem? Tool...

sounds like fairyweather would fit in nicely...

Fairyweather...did you get GW FOREVER tatooed on your left ass cheek or your right cheek to match the big fuckin' "L" on your forehead?? I forgot...

you drive a big ol' pickuhp, don'tcha, bubbles? prolly got big ol' dualies in the back...yeeehmuthafuckin'ha!

i guess we could call Builder206 a loss "leader"...

somehow, i just don't think you'll be able to advertise "ropegun" by the end of the summer...not unless a lot has changed...

except for that little ropegun part...

6.2 is not big by any stretch of the imagination...it can have some significant shaking, however, if its got the right fill and depth is right, blah blah blah...get bwrts to expound....some.... just sayin...

hey porter, what about smiff land?

I've heard before that 6 mo's is a fair amount of time to allow someone to try their FA project. I tend to agree with this time-frame. I'd say it goes for a trad line someone discovered and spent some time cleaning, to a sport climb they equipped. There have been cases I've heard of where the equipper tried to assert "territorial rights" years after bolting, and this is bs. It's mainly public property we're all dealing with here, and giving 6 mo's of "private rights" to someone is really just a courtesy; I think it's selfish to *expect* more. btw, i don't think there is any sort of "ground up" ethic at vantage, beyond what the late bill robins tried to endorse. pull your hangers, reinstall when ready to try, if succeed, you get fa, if not, pull your hangers, repeat... if someone puts their own hangers on, fine...if you leave the hangers, its open...

whatever..at least the "ILF" is in there...

Only in your case, bubbles...

sure...