My whole friggin point was that they aren't lazy, ie bolting the line for their own leads but for others...Don't trash talk people you don't know...regardless of the side of the fence you are on...trashtalking their actions is fine, but you don't know them, so don't presume to know their motivations and whether they are lazy...they aren't...
and scott, don't be telling others (me) what's cool to climb and what's not...i don't give a shit how hard or not you climb...there are trad areas and there are sport areas...what's so difficult about that...i see no difference between smith and an in-bound ski area...it is there for recreating in...you don't like it, buzz off, go somewhere else...ie, ski outta bounds...
later "chief"...