RuMR

are you kidding me??? You don't have the mental capacity to teach yourself climbing??? Good god, its not that difficult...

...actually, that is pretty much how i learned...at 17 to boot...it isn't rocket science, nor hard if you have any common sense...

...emphasis on gay...and you have to pay for it to boot...

...alll for free of course...or maybe a beer or two... save your money, the mounties stink past a certain very basic level...

especially when compared to just following good climbers for pitch after pitch and getting pushed by them on stuff....

the horror!!!

I beg to differ!!!! hey, who's that instructing???

honestly, the mounties will just hold you up once you've hit a certain level...and you'll have to put up with all of their dogma crap about thus and such... you are far better off taking DirtyHarry's suggestion and hooking up with skilled climbers to learn from...save your money, put it towards a gym membership and hook up with partners there...

do they say "oooooooohm ooooooooohm" when they get all SeRENE like??

hence my term "generally speaking"

...that's cuz they basically suck as pure technical rockclimbers, generally speaking...

slabby is irrelevant if talking about pure crack climbing...ie, your talking about foot placement in cracks and jamming in cracks...so the slabbier the easier in pure crack climbing... face is different; however, this topic is about CRACK... when exactly do you highstep in a crack? regarding your onsighting "harder" in one place or another could just mean that the ratings are not correlated between the areas...or another way of putting it is that a squamish "5.10a" is really just an index 5.9 in disguise...blah blah blah

Please post here: Dru...stay the hell out of the kitchen, punk!

whatever...try sumpin' harder than 5.9....

hmmm...some of the basalt areas in central oregon are ALL jamming with no feet/features...if anything granite offers smears etc....

hmmmmmm....don't know if i agree with that...

see...that would be yet another reason to get a kids forum!! Gear swappage!!!!!!!!!!!!

shoot...isn't that only a couple of years ago????

hahahaha...i just figure on not climbing when i take them...if i get some in, that's great and gravy, but i don't count on it... watching them suceed is more than enough for me...

come on!!!! Just go!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm likely leaving Thursday night...

no...but you can bet your bottom dollar that he would if'n he was in the same situation!!!

hmmm...threatening said person is prolly not the way to go as far as getting your c4 back!

he prolly deals with his supervisor fine enough... he just whines about EVERYTHING...

hmmm...that's pretty stiff for .11a...