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kevin's point is on the top of his head...

yeah!!! LET'S DO IT!!!

hey ben, you dumb geofuck...go find some liquified sand to take a swim in, tool... hopefully, your fat ass is bouyant enough to stay afloat so i can throw rocks at you...assmunch... Hey, we gotta go get some brewskis to cry into sometime...

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Assuming that they used 120' ropes they could have reached the belay above the roof. I bet they were using 150'. In any event a review of some photos of the FA shows that the leader had a beefy haul/rap line tied to his harness. The bolts I mentioned are not on Stern Farmer but are located just to the right. They lead up to a horizontal break. Has this gone free? and if they had 150' ropes could they rap to the ground with out the haul/rap line visible in the photos? Honestly, the bolts have prooven useful to me but I clipped the anchor in disgusted retreat due to the proximity to the crack. Yet, if I would have had the gumption to conitnue and attempt the difficult Full Pitch 1, I would have done so by clipping the lower down anchor/short pitch 1 anchor. This to me, is legal since the bolts are there long ago. I do support removal and relocation. Realistically would a relocation proove useful or accessable for someone climbing the short pitch?? again, they are in a perfect stance location...totally obvious location if one would put in a "mid pitch" anchor... pretty trivial deal if you ask me...

Minx, I would hope every rock climber would cringe at the idea of sticking an anchor a fraction of the way up a crack pitch of ANY difficulty. Whether the full pitch is something way out of your league or whether you could free solo it SHOULD be irrelevant. To illustrate, imagine a climb like Illusion Dweller in Joshua Tree. If you can handle 5.10-, you can probably finish that pitch (which features its crux near the top). Now let's suppose that you, Minx, are a 5.10- climber who loves climbing cracks (which you state to be true) and who can finish that pitch (which we can assume to be true if you can handle the "shorty" version of Japanese Gardens). Now let's suppose a 5.8 Mountie decides that if Illusion Dweller featured an anchor 30 feet below the top, it would "add" an excellent 5.8 pitch to Joshua Tree. Would you support that? What about creating a nice 5.6 climb by putting an anchor below the bulge on Classic Crack? I think you would not. You see, it's all a matter of degree. The "shorty" version of Japanese Gardens appeals to you and that is precisely why you think the anchor is appropriate. Anybody who thinks otherwise must be intolerant of climbers who pursue moderate climbs. Well, I think you're missing the point. That short anchor on Japanese Gardens is a bad idea regardless of how hard the long pitch or short pitch is, and definitely regardless of Minx's desires and abilities/limitations. man, you are a clown...there's a full on ledge no hands order-a-pizza stance right there...it doesn't do diddly squat to the full version...just paint them brown so they aren't glaring to groundpounders and move on...

well spoken minx...

isn't a "spray pole" another name for crazypolishedknob??

Glad I can be hear to make you laugh. Does it remind you of the last laugh you had. When you last looked at your dick. Yeah, i always laugh when i look down at that monster!

no kevbeenboned...you are the current biggest joke on here...

too much work...plus, it gives me an excuse for suckin'

what if (in my case) the other cheek is just as fat as the primary cheek?????

my big fat ol' spare tire is not an option in your poll...

shut up you FOG...FatOldGuy...

you fuck bag...answer your goddamned pms...

and that would simulate a fat ass and spare tire PERFECTLY!!

Hey Gary, I use a 25# neoprene weight vest (its variable weight, actually...small pouches for packing with lead)...its built for track sprinting and hugs the body very close and centers its mass through your trunk instead of off your back... the results are pretty phenomenal as i leave with a thrashed back/shoulders/abs as opposed to only thrashed gripping muscles... be warned though, they are not cheap...

come on ben, hyperbole doesn't become you...

fuck...you guys are morons...but i have to say that there was one case where i had a draw come completely unclipped w/o a fall once for me...the roof out on Kings of Rap has a bolt in the middle of the wall as you traverse out...the quickdraw "rolled" over the top of the bolt (a metolius ring bolt) and unclipped itself from just the pull of the rope as i pulled out and around the roof into the jug...This actually occurred *often* enough that its pretty well known with old generation smiff climbers. You can easily replicate it with those bolts at smith. Modern hangers are sloped enough that this is pretty impossible (unlikely) to happen.

WRONG Dru, do it your own way. I'm just telling people the right way to do it. Don't confuse them. didya learn this at mountieU?

yeah...that kix character reeks after a good sesh...his daycare really doesn't like him coming around after a bouldering sesh...

Hey E, yer still a bitch, but you gettin' out much?? Totally missed out on not hauling my sprouts to the kids ropeup...

john, that is seriously NOT cool to be drilling into bridge pilings...why the fuck would you do it? Just glue holds on and put up TR's or you gotta get hero-fix leading on concrete?

do not be drilling into bridge pilings, you fucking moron...