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Here is a solution to not having to carry bottles or cans out. Homemade Pesto with dried parmesan cheese and whatever Italian noodle is the best so far. Go heavy on the GOOD olive oil. The other is FD Green Beans. You just can't go wrong with a little sea salt added. All time favorite: Pack the flyrod and a small frying pan. Yumm!

Who's work is this?

Nice Lowell. How about Charles Hessey? I know he is known for skiing rather that mountaineering but didn't he pioneer ski touring in Washington state pre-war? My grandmother's maiden name was Hessey and was cousins with Charles.

Keep em coming Lowell, this is fun.

Warren B. Spickard died climbing Mox. Spikard was the peak that was renamed.

Is Forbidden the first? Climbed by Lloyd Anderson and Fred Beckey?

Quote:"*The views and information expressed at this website are not mine and may be goofy, stupid, just plain wrong, or possibly offensive to various parties. I HAVE NOT met all the people in these bands and can not confirm that they actually play the instruments they say they do, nor can I confirm that the music at the festival will by true-bluegrass THEY MIGHT SNEAK SOME COUNTRY OR (EEEEK!) FOLK MUSIC in there. Remember, attending music festivals is serious business they may get your drunk, entertained, or even hooked on the banjo! Use this information at your own risk. " Well, I must say...It was a good Bluegrass festival. I jammed from Thursaday night until Sunday morning with little bouts of sleep, eats and walks down to the creek to cool off. What was really the cake was when I would notice some of the folks I was jamming with were also on stage. The new mandolin picker from Country Current was awesome. Steve from Crossfire was my favorite fiddle player. Tim from 78RPM was also fun to rip it up with. The best was the kid Josh Tharp playing his own hand made banjo in the band Harmony Breeze. Only 20 years old and smoking hot! If you don't think Darrington is traditional bluegrass, you have never been. It is the most traditional Bluegrass festival in Washington. The best in the traditional sence as well. They would never allow Yonder Mtn String Band or Old & in the Way to perform. Folks like Doyle Lawson or Sawtooth Mountain Boys are the typical folks who participate. There is no country music but there is plenty of Gospel. All instruments are accoustic. No elecrtic steel, bass or guitars. Most guitars are Martin, Collins or Gibson. The mandos vary but I think you will see a few Nuggets, Gibsons, Webers, Flatirons, etc. Banjos are a majority of Gibsons, Deerjing, Gold Tones, ODE's etc. My favorite were the fiddle girls... Good Times

Donovan, Read the previous pages!!! Ever wonder why sleeping bags are made in China rather than the US? Two reasons; one is to cut labor costs and the other is to cut materials costs. Most down is PROCESSED in China but comes from all over the world including Europe.

Add another $50 to the pot please.

Here is a mediocre one. It sure would be nice if some of our loyal customers would do reviews here on this site of their favorite Feathered Friends gear though. I'd like to do one but then everyone would think that I was biased. Hey, they're right!

No but the New Rock Climbing Ethics Forum would be cool

Other way around Timmay CC.com supporting the little itty bitty companies since... Got Rope?

Pacific Coast Feathers and Allied Feather and Down. WM gets theirs from Allied as well. ---->new website Check it out!

Check it out! We just launched it a day ago. Please let me know if something isn't working or there is bad or incorrect information. customerservice@featheredfriends.com -Tony

Agreed. No guidebook, greater commitment and sense of adventure. Same with bolts.

snip from Dwayner:"in my opinion, are dubious manifestations of sport-climbing" This is a classic statement! Dwayner isn't old enough to realize that hangdogging was just aid climbing and was standard practice. Yeah, I am a culprit of it all. I hangdog or aid climb or rehearse or whatever you what to label it. I expect no less from anyone else. Climbing is what it is, equal to ascending by whatever means necessary. Style is secondary to survival. One man's style is another man's creativity. The trend that Dwayner and Peter both refer to was not developed by either party but in a time when pipes, stovelegs and engine parts were still the best means of protection. I am thankful for bolts and SLCD's and good belayers. Aiding is almost necessary even in this day and age for difficult climbs. After inspection for safe and sound protection, only then should your gear route be considered for redpointing. Otherwise, expect aid. Of course, this isn't the case with everyone and toproping is another option. Bolts on the other hand is a matter of preference. Beat your chest for skipping a bolt or for chopping a bolt but in the long run, no one cares except the guy who drilled the holes. The rest you can argue for eternity but the result is condescending.

Hey, thanks for the link. I already sent the info to our local expert/owner so we can discuss the legitimacy of the information. So far, everything seems correct. There is one aspect that is not covered in the information I have or anywhere else which may lead to the result of an 850 or 900 fill power. I can only speculate though, considering there is only one respected organization who does independant testing in the US. During the subcommittee meeting (F08.22) at the OR show last winter, representatives from all of the sleeping bag manufacturers gathered to discuss ASTM standards for tents, bags and pads. It seemed that there wasn't a real standard on how the down was conditioned before it was tested using the standard cylinder test. I suspect that there might be a different method as to how the goose down is to be prepared before it is actually tested for loft. The result could be a higher loft rating. This might explain why Western Mountaineering has suddenly changed their down fill power from 800 to 850 even though they receive their down from the exact same supplier and it is the exact same down. When I called to inquire, I spoke with their customer service rep over the phone, her reply was that they were receiving a different down that was "better" than what they were receiving last year. I suspect that the rep didn't really know why, so her answer was something she came up with herself. BTW, check out the new site if you have a chance, it was launched yeaterday so it might not be accross the globe yet but it is working on my computer here and at home. Click Here!

It happens all the time. Customers vent on public forums hoping that their voice is heard and shoppers will go elsewhere. Have you seen this? This is a classic example of one guy getting fed up with the service of a small company. The problem with this customer is that his card number was declined and we tried to contact him but his phone didn't have an answering machine. It was our fault for not afforing a secure on-line ordering ability. I agree, it is necessary but expensive. This is a final draft of our new site. It should go live in the next day or so. BTW, Tom was an old FF employee. Rock Wren looks like the Raku? I only hear good things about Nunatuk and with a name like that, you can't go wrong.

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Funny, I wash down stuff every day and never use the tennis ball trick. Seems like the eight of the down when it is wet eliminates the need. It keeps the bag from smelling like shoes too.

I don't care one way or the other. I still can't redpoint that route through the slot. Most people go to the Sag anchors and claim a redpoint.

What about slamming in one bolt rather than widening the crack to the point of "clean climbing" ?

Check this out.