sk

the great thing about climbing is that it can be to each person what they need it to be... religion, hobby, life style, pass time, philosophy, whatever. (oh, and AMEN! )

Dearest Santa, I have tried so hard to be a good girl this year. There are just a few things that I would like. Perhaps I can speak to you in person about this??? thank you in advance sk "I saw momma kissin' santa cluase under neath the chirstmas tree last night"

LMAO thank you trask

no one wants to meet me in salem any way so no worries. although I think I can drive to the kendy school and I have a place to sleep that I can walk to from there if you alll ever want to do a pdx pub club on a friday

DFA i think you need a copey of the "everyone poops" book from santa

TLG>>> LMAO that little guy is hallarious!!!!

LMAO

I WANT TO VOTE MORE THAN ONCE!!!!!! NO FARE

I want to say the ramones but i know that is not it.... hmmmmmmm

NOPE I am working my gym leading so I can work on my sport leading so that maybe just maybe I am not totaly gripped next time I try to lead some relativly unclimbed by me 5.6 trad climb. (sigh) then I will it realy is too bad eugene is so far from portland

Jim, thank you for the clerification. I appriciate the link to the document as well although realy I think I only read about 1/2 of it. It was verry ummm well dry Although i did read the geology and cultural parts wich were verry interesting to me. IMO from what I read, I think that the only real solution is for the native peoples to go on NOT LOOKING at cave rock and then when I climb it, it will not be offensive to them. I know that the issue is very complex and that it is verry heated emotionaly on all sides. I hope with all my heart that there is some kind of compramise on this issue.

*snif* does this mean I am uninvited? I don't think I can go thursday any way... I have to practice my leading

SALEM!!!! I want to go

TEX buddy you have been studying WAY to hard let us know when finals are over!

I have still not had time to read the document... but I will. from reading your posts jim I am a bit confused...Is Cave Rock on public land, or is this on land that is part of a reservation? As far as i understand the law, unless the government chosses to grant the land to the native people it is under u.s. law, and our nations laws must then be followed, right?

and what freeclimb said

I downloaded that document, thank you are you insinuating that because I am a woman I am more likely to pave a floor or move a rock for safety??? because I primarily climb trad, and that kind of thing does not jive with my personal climbing ethic

what ever happened to that guy after he stuffed marthas muffin???

if you eat deep dish it is in essence fried :yuck:

Thank you Jim! I look forword to what ever you can find out

okay well then I will laugh and think of you and at last understand

is this what we are having for dinner Iain???

LMAO!!!!! I wonder how many people we could knock down together!!!!

you have more access to this kind of information than do the rest of us... NETWORK MAN!!! bring us back real information!!!!

LOL I think dru and I would ski well together after someone else taught me how to stand up