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not all of us can chat Iain... I feel soooo left out

NOPE!!! I have met both dru and jon and they are similare in many ways but not the same besides can't you hear drus accent when he types

I see Iain took philosophy in college as well you can prove nothing

It is only Immoral if you believe it to be immoral, or someone can lead you to believe it is immoral.

I think what my dear friend GregW is trying to point out is that... "Nothing is so right or wrong, as thinking makes it so" -William Shakespear

LOL perhaps a few more than 12

I have to agree with cavey here. although damnation was an off width climb for me as my hands are small too. IMHO a crack is a crack from finger lock all the way to squeez chimney and the more challenging and bloody it is the more likley Tex has me on top rope yellin, "Just climb up a little higher! You have to check out the next section!"

DUDE don't beat your self up for it.... there are far worse things you could do to your child. I love movies... don't you? I am not adivcating "lazy parenting" here, just pointing out that the things that we all seem to do are not evil, per say.

(sigh) me too. just make sure that when you give in you set firm limits. Video games are not "bad" they actualy teach great hand eye coordination. Just make sure you stay on top of what games they get and how long they play for. My kids think it is a fun treat especialy at the arcade, now THAT is some fun

LOL as long as you have a tresure map so you don't loose anything

good question... best to follow the ummm 'herd'

Legos rule and are worth HOURS of entertain ment for my boys... they take all those "specific" legos put them all in one tub and make the coolest original ships and stations that I have ever seen. I don't think my kids believe in "directions" We've been trying to figure out if our 6 yr old is big enough for *kinex* (sp)

well said Trask, oregon needs NO more serious logging either. I would also like to point out that most lumber companies that "re-plant", plant trees that are not climax species in our area. so there is no way that the so called forest can grow to it's previous glory

to each his own... I prefer the Morning Star as does Gimli

are speaking of Marilyn Monroe or Jackie O?

sorry DFA, I just can't even read it. am I suprised? no

scotish men (okay, any atractive man) in kilts have always turned my eye

LMAO

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I hear you icegirl...have the same trouble

see there was punk before punk was punk that what we did to only to music.... MOSH PITTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

i heard some where that there will always be punk because there will always be some kid in his garage trying to learn how to play... punk means and meant something diffrent to every one, to each group. who cares. If cavey wants to be a dick that is his deal... we all have our way of dealing with the world, weather it is sarcasim, brutality, sexual inuendo what ever... heres what I think... when ray stops threatening violence and starts actualy kicking the shit out of inocent people, then we have a problem.

I don't know about prtland but I got my ass kick by some seatle skin heads at a show, I was going to say once, but that happend twice

I give

I got my stereo for 80.00$ and it works just fine