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BANDGUY... if you don't want to live by the rules (losse and dificult to understand as they may be) START YOU OWN FUCKIN BBS!!!

I guess only I care cavey... But I am proud of my friends that work for say Potland or bend mountain rescue... they take time out of there lives to help others and I think that is verry cool.

BACK OFF SHIT FACE.... I can start naming SAR members on this site if you want me to.

you/he were/was being an ass... get over it... many people here have been banned once or twice... learn and move on

I was heavily ( to me) moderateed when I first apeared on cc.com... it took me some time to recoginse the moderaters limits and to say what I wanted to say with out crossing the line.... after everyone gets to cyber know you a little better people are more willing to ask or guess that you may just be joking or whatever... many people who post here work closely with rescue workes... we need those guys, lets not go out of our way to offend them needlessly... kay?

I feel I must quote Texplorer here... " A bad day climbing is better than the best day doing anything else"

Why do you look at humans as being ouside of nature? are we not exactly what we have evolved into... isn't evelution part of nature??? I am not saying we shouldn't do things better, because we should. but we are also part of nature... unless of course we are aliens

LOL you don't know me very well, do you ?

I am saying that as you party participants awake from your sheepdom, you will alll find that you have been fucked up the ass by the poloticians(left and right) that are power hungry and money hungry, and the AMERICAN PEOPLE will stand shoulder to shoulder for what is truely right I liked the letter and I am glad you posted it

and so it begins....

I almost always have fun when i go climbing. Generaly what makes a trip for me is the whole deal. The people I am with the beer tha routs we climb.... It's hard to pick just one. I am thinking though I'll get back to this

I am confused Iain... were you talking to me? or GregW ? don't forgrt to

I don't cary a gun, nor do I usualy joke about killing people. I also try not to judge people, or force them to live by the standerds that I hold for myself.

It is NOT SAYING that causes one to be incarcerated, it is DOING that leads to incarceration. Saying and doing are remarkably diffrent things.

we will work on the date for our snow falling!!! anything but being trapped in the house for the rest of the winter!

can i have a cookie??? one with frosting on it please did you know that cookies go great with ? they do

I guess in my oppinion, it would just be REALY NICE to have a respectable human in office. Some one I could admire... perhaps we are all just too jaded now.

okay, they CHOSE to go without. Either way they were not drinking tea... yet they still had to have tea time etc. as was proper at that time... they had to drink somrthing... warm milk and sugar would be better than nothing noodge!

It makes sense... after the boston tea party they had to go with out right??? so they drank warm milk and sugar instead....

Well happy aniversary GregW!!!! Perhaps I will now have a cup of coffe in celibration

there did seem to be a time when the office of the Presidency held respect, no mater wich individual was in the office. Sadly, today I sense verry little of that. Seems to me that it has been a slow decay....

I realy like Patagonia as a company...Yet I find the the pants are invariably too long, cause I am a shorty and they don't have petiets. I did however just find out when we went to the store in PDX last weekend that if I take in my recipt from an alteration they will reimburse. that rules

non climbing weekend here did put up the x-mas tree though. THAT WAS FUN

thanks timm@y, as much as I hate being moderated myself, I was hoping that that post would be removed. I think as climbers we need to realize that those people who may pull us out when we get in over our heads are our allies in our indevers, and treat them as such. for all the people who put themselves at risk saving and protecting the rest of us.

Dru... thanks buddy (snif) I am touched... I got you a new alpine kitty back pack and some