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what, like "punk punk punk"?

No, he posts under a different avatar these days

What Kevin, isn't that from 1981 or something? Whoa, breaking news, punk fan gets punched (and digs it). Here's a very informative Nardwuar interview with Henry. Has Nardwuar the Human Serviette been recognized as a Canadian national treasure yet? [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_E34CTcY7k

The yard sale here is just that: a tool to help other climbers sell their stuff to local folks. It's like a garage sale, not an auction. It's definitely not about promoting your highest bidder national sale. The day you registered, with your only post, you put up a link to ebay and one uninformative sentence. I found it pretty irritating and poked you. I'm not a moderator in this forum, though I am in a number of others on this board. Your defense that you read the rules, but oops, decided they just didn't apply to you, is pretty weak. You could have deleted your ebay listing, you could have deleted your post here, or changed it so that you were directly selling rather than advertising for bidders. I'd have been a little more polite if you were a regular poster here, like Kletterhund who posted above, but your approach read more like a spambot (a regular irritant here) than anything else, especially given your identical post at Mountainproject.com and who knows how many other sites. It's nice that you've now written enough to be a person, but I still think you ought to take down your ebay link now that it's pretty clear what the policy is here. If the sale doesn't go through there, by all means, post and ad here, this is in fact your target audience.

Yup, this will tell the story. I could imagine 911 dispatch having a private number, they wouldn't be wanting you to dial that one instead of just using 911. They didn't ask you for your cascadeclimbers.com password, did they?

Yeesh, that looks creepy. I've heard tech folks at Fixe say that you shouldn't use a stainless hanger with a carbon steel bolt, but I'd expect the corrosion to happen to the bolt, not the hanger. I'd sure like to know more about what caused this.

I assume you read the text? OMG, pictures of clouds taken through a pair of sunglasses, and you can see how the secret chemical spraying by the Illuminati or the UN looks like demons dancing! Kind of makes a Truther look like Stephen Hawking.

Here's a few questions: Did you read the post titled "READ THIS FIRST" in this forum? Did you notice the part that read "DON'T POST LINKS TO YOUR EBAY SALE"? Did you register just to promote this ebay ad?

That's pretty damned awesome.

Whoa, now that's what I call a hybrid! I've been looking at bouldering photos (courtesy of clan Kingsbury) out of MT for a few years now, looks really stellar, glad you got to go scope it out Dick. Someone with time and inclination should snatch at this opportunity.

FYI, you can link 4 & 5 on NEWS; now that's a sweet pitch.

No, I went to a wedding in Hood River. The event happened at a B&B above a bluff, and when I looked over the edge at the scruffy basalt and poison ivy I thought, "Huh, that looks like Bill Coe country..."

Did you see someone trundling, as in an active human party? Spontaneous rockfall is just one of the objective dangers that lurk in the alpine environment, but you knew that, right?

Yeah Ivan, and I bet you've seen stars & little tweeting birds circling around your head too!

Joe, do you have a link to the Youtube video production of that ascent?

Why bother? "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table...I have no interest in doing it." --Barney Frank responding to a question from a woman holding a picture President Obama with an Adolf Hitler-like mustache drawn above his lip at a recent town hall meeting. Here's the relevant film clip [video:youtube]

"fuck" is simply a modern construct that serves as an underline emphasis, by which I mean Dru is no one's definition of a sport climber.

See Pope, the kids are alright, and that one stands a fine chance to establish a B-Y for his generation, not to mention what may lie in Rudy's offspring's future. Coming up through a sport climbing world doesn't mean one can't appreciate the big game. The future is neither as black as you imagine nor as bright as I expect, but its likely to be better than most expect. Seems to have always worked out that way so far... Hey Dru, for a guy who's trad as fuck, I'm really impressed by your appreciation for modern grungy crag craftsmanship.

Like I said, I agree Rudy. Here's a great video of Hayden Kennedy, 18 year old son of Michael Kennedy, on the B-Y courtesy of Black Diamond: link

Don't forget "driver" SS, she was a passenger in that brief truck shot. I agree, some of the voice over was challenging, but some of that footage was really wonderful.

I absolutely agree Rudy, and I do understand Pope's point. I was just trying to answer the question "why would someone bolt something they had already top roped?" In the end, we are pretty much talking about one or two people's experience here, the FA party. Once a route is established, but whichever means, its a known quantity with a grade and all. What remains is how will the route be for everyone who comes after. The Bachar-Yerian in Tuolomne, oft cited as a prime example of the bold ground up ethic, is an interesting beast, but somewhat of a statistical outlier. Bachar chose to make a point with that route. He was drilling from hooks, so he could have chosen to protect it better. He was no Tom Gerughty on the Dike Route just down the road, who felt unable to stop and drill and was driven to continue just to escape the route. Bachar's creation is bold and remarkable, but it's not an example of how every route should be. Very very few climbers will ever attempt it, which is just fine, but its not an example of how everything should be. It's okay to play street basketball, not everyone has to play at an NBA level. On the other hand, a bolt every five feet is a terrible standard too. Z clipping? What a horrible modern invention. There's a lot to be said for a 5.9 route for a 5.9 leader, and its okay to have some 5.9 routes for a 5.11 leader: they tend to develop a reputation (like the B-Y, a 5.11 route for a 5.13 leader). The 5.9 for a 5.7 leader? It just doesn't foster the kind of skill and judgment one needs to develop as a climber. As a potentially hazardous entertainment, ability is only one of the elements of being a climber, and probably not the most important one.

Nice TR, and very thoughtful to include both spellings in the title, helpful to anyone in the future searching the TR index for TR's from this peak.

Uh, Pink? That's kind of disgusting.

I thought if you just use a drunk avatar and a sober one, then there's no need to regret?

Hey Pink and Porter, STFU, some of us are actually thinking in here.