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Are they going to rename it the 787 Scabliner?

Dane, there's a glaring Lowe hole in your collection. Nothing in the Hummingbird/Footfang department?

Then today would be the one after 9/09... [video:youtube]

"mountain grammar police"

I prefer my Metallica reinterpreted... [video:youtube] [video:youtube]

When you were climbing in the Valley I'm pretty sure camalots hadn't been invented yet. Oh, I'm pretty sure they were invented before last June, foo. Thanks Bill, but it was brand new, no dinged up wobbler, and I know Pete wouldn't be stealing shit out of people's packs.

I "lost" a #5 camalot at the base of El Cap, but it was in my pack, not dropped.

Tom, thanks for chiming in. I'd like to remind everyone that this is a TR, and as such you should all be polite and respectful, even when disagreeing.

Perhaps the CBR route should be renamed "Tempest In A Teapot"?

I'm curious about regional precedent. Dane, were the things you renamed on Chimney Rock? Era-wise, that was closer to Astroman than the present day, right? How many aid routes at Index have been renamed when they were freed? City Park springs to mind as a notable ascent where the route was not renamed. It doesn't seem like alpine routes in Washington have been renamed when bits of aid have been freed, can anyone think of any examples where that's happened? I don't think anything on the Liberty Bell group got renamed, Liberty Crack and Thin Red Line spring to mind as examples of no name change. Haven't most of the newly named El Cap free routes involved combinations and variations? El Nino doesn't fully follow the NA Wall line. Golden Gate is part Salathe, part Heart, and part something new. Secret Passage is part Eagles Way, part Bad To The Bone, and partly new. Excalibur follows the original line, and it didn't get renamed.

Rad, I'm not sure that "bolts on the roof pitch" were ever more than speculation, at least I never heard of any confirmed sightings.

I assume this is about someone wanting to rename the Tempest Wall on CBR after freeing the roof pitch? Precedent runs both ways out in the world (Astroman anyone?) but on the balance I don't think things in the Cascades get renamed when someone frees them, especially if its an alpine route that follows the same line. I'm sure someone can come up with the exception to that idea though... BTW, this is not intended to make light of Tom's efforts, that's a pretty proud send by local alpine standards.

Here's a link to a thread on this board about the route and the 1991 accident. It happened up where you descend from the arete onto the glacier (rappel I think), and serac fall from higher up buried Gary Gray in the moat while his partner Kurt, who I think scrambled higher up on the arete, was injured. You won't want to tarry at that location, but the rock portion sounds good.

Hear hear! Without photos, this thread is totally invalid.

There are a number of bits of granite on my property in Tenino that have no business being here, but it seems like I read somewhere that my hill is a terminal moraine. There's plenty of granite in the alluvial outwash around here too, including a delightful white granite boulder in the parking lot of a gravel quarry nearby.

KK, did I miss the post where you apologize to Bill Coe when it turns out the "hypothetical family" you accuse him of manufacturing is actually his own experience? So, as a comparison, the entire annual budget for the National Parks is the equivalent of 8 DAYS of the Iraq war. And that's using a relatively conservative cost estimate ( citation). How about we just take a week off over there and make the National Parks free for everyone for a year?

what, like "punk punk punk"?

No, he posts under a different avatar these days

What Kevin, isn't that from 1981 or something? Whoa, breaking news, punk fan gets punched (and digs it). Here's a very informative Nardwuar interview with Henry. Has Nardwuar the Human Serviette been recognized as a Canadian national treasure yet? [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_E34CTcY7k

Yup, this will tell the story. I could imagine 911 dispatch having a private number, they wouldn't be wanting you to dial that one instead of just using 911. They didn't ask you for your cascadeclimbers.com password, did they?

Yeesh, that looks creepy. I've heard tech folks at Fixe say that you shouldn't use a stainless hanger with a carbon steel bolt, but I'd expect the corrosion to happen to the bolt, not the hanger. I'd sure like to know more about what caused this.

I assume you read the text? OMG, pictures of clouds taken through a pair of sunglasses, and you can see how the secret chemical spraying by the Illuminati or the UN looks like demons dancing! Kind of makes a Truther look like Stephen Hawking.

That's pretty damned awesome.

Whoa, now that's what I call a hybrid! I've been looking at bouldering photos (courtesy of clan Kingsbury) out of MT for a few years now, looks really stellar, glad you got to go scope it out Dick. Someone with time and inclination should snatch at this opportunity.

FYI, you can link 4 & 5 on NEWS; now that's a sweet pitch.