Greg_W

lancegranite, this is the biggest example of the pussification of men in America. You make me fucking sick. You probably drive a minivan and carry a "man-purse", too. Women "put up with" our antics??? Is that how low you think of yourself? Guys like you make me shake my head in sadness. Grow some balls and stand up for yourself. This coming from a clog wearing, gun toting, Metallica listening real man. You don't know me. I've been through my own shit and seen enough to know what I'm talking about.

She is. You know her? Huh, small world.

No shit; my Sweetheart gets a capital 'S'.

Sorry for jumping down your throat, Breezy; I didn't realize you were new, or a newbie. However, as a newbie, what can be gained by a bunch of "what-if" opinions and speculation? For you, sweetheart, the best advice I can give you is EDUCATE YOURSELF. Learn about snow conditions, weather systems, snow consolidation, etc., and THEN draw your own conclusions when you get out in it. All you will gain from this discussion is the jism of our mental masturbation on what MIGHT have happened. And, really, you probably could do without that drycleaning bill. See you out there.

Sorry, but this is one of the all-time stupidest questions I've seen on this board. Worse than, "what flavor Clif Bar makes my shit green?" There are so many variables that come into play on such a route, who's to say? It'd just be a bunch of "maybe...possibly...coulda, shoulda, woulda, mental masturbation. Who fucking cares? Just make sure YOU are safe when you go out.

Dude, shut the fuck up already. Fuck your armchair quarterbacking and coffeebar philosophizing. This thread is about an accident, and the unfortunate loss of fellow climbers. Take your analysis to another thread. Peace to their families. Jim, I hope it wasn't your friend. Greg_W

lancegranite, this is the biggest example of the pussification of men in America. You make me fucking sick. You probably drive a minivan and carry a "man-purse", too. Women "put up with" our antics??? Is that how low you think of yourself? Guys like you make me shake my head in sadness. Grow some balls and stand up for yourself.

yes but if the "friend" is breathing she could get most of the single guys on this site. Breathing and has nice cans. C'mon, there ARE standards after all. Or regularly shearable in the winter. you shear sheep in the late spring... not the winter. you might end up with a frostbitten ewe if you sheared ewe in the winter! Sheep sheep sheep Nobody ever wants to a Goat! (actually, I just wanted to keep one of these quote pryamids going...like in the "old days") I miss the old days quit living in the past "it's all the same fucking day" -Janice Joplin All those pyramids are tripping me out. I'm starting to have seizures. Seizure attack! well lets test the system a little further Is this what you want to stop, catbirdseat? Or this? Maybe I got it wrong. Is THIS what you want to stop?

yes but if the "friend" is breathing she could get most of the single guys on this site. Breathing and has nice cans. C'mon, there ARE standards after all. Or regularly shearable in the winter. you shear sheep in the late spring... not the winter. you might end up with a frostbitten ewe if you sheared ewe in the winter! Sheep sheep sheep Nobody ever wants to a Goat! (actually, I just wanted to keep one of these quote pryamids going...like in the "old days") I miss the old days quit living in the past "it's all the same fucking day" -Janice Joplin All those pyramids are tripping me out. I'm starting to have seizures. Seizure attack! well lets test the system a little further Is this what you want to stop, catbirdseat? Or this?

yes but if the "friend" is breathing she could get most of the single guys on this site. Breathing and has nice cans. C'mon, there ARE standards after all. Or regularly shearable in the winter. you shear sheep in the late spring... not the winter. you might end up with a frostbitten ewe if you sheared ewe in the winter! Sheep sheep sheep Nobody ever wants to a Goat! (actually, I just wanted to keep one of these quote pryamids going...like in the "old days") I miss the old days quit living in the past "it's all the same fucking day" -Janice Joplin All those pyramids are tripping me out. I'm starting to have seizures. Seizure attack! well lets test the system a little further Is this what you want to stop, catbirdseat?

Interesting excert gotterdamerung. However, I am reminded of the fact that it took almost 4 years of European war and a direct attack on American soil for our leaders to enter WWII. The national and world leaders in the mid-30's were a band of appeasers, with a few bright spots of determined, stolid leadership (Churchill, FDR). American men were chomping at the bit to help our allies, but our leaders hesitated. It wasn't the American, or even Allied, political leaders who made our achievements in WWII so great; it was the fighting men and tacticians of that "hero" generation (as they are called).

In some ways he was, at the time. He restored pride in being German and turned the economy around. Of course, the obvious downside was the millions of dead Jews, slaughtered slavs, and bombed out cities. Read "The Arms of Krupp", it's an interesting profile of not only the Krup family, but the inner workings of WWII German industrialism.

Not in the least. My climbing is driven by almost the exact opposite of this dork. Maroons like this toad make me laugh is all. In my view, you miss half the experience of climbing if you don't stop to look at the beauty of your surroundings once in awhile. yeah...what he said! I dig those prana top fillin's...they so bootiful!!!! No wonder your wife doesn't let you climb much. man, she looks good in those tops...trick is gettin' her to go climbing...still workin' on that one... I'm going to attempt to use the kids as leverage/extortion!! If they're too small to do yard work or mow the lawn, you might as well get some use out of them.

Not in the least. My climbing is driven by almost the exact opposite of this dork. Maroons like this toad make me laugh is all. In my view, you miss half the experience of climbing if you don't stop to look at the beauty of your surroundings once in awhile. yeah...what he said! I dig those prana top fillin's...they so bootiful!!!! No wonder your wife doesn't let you climb much.

Don't mistake rage for inane energetic babbling by a 140# pimply-faced punk with thick glasses.

Lying about your age proves your gay....fag.

Not in the least. My climbing is driven by almost the exact opposite of this dork. Maroons like this toad make me laugh is all. In my view, you miss half the experience of climbing if you don't stop to look at the beauty of your surroundings once in awhile.

What about Angel's Crest and Rock On? I know some don't consider AC a stellar, classic climb because there's some "hiking" in between pitches, but the location is unbeatable.

yes but if the "friend" is breathing she could get most of the single guys on this site. Breathing and has nice cans. C'mon, there ARE standards after all.

He's beyond enthusiastic, you stupid dick. He's annoying. You're a fucknut for even being on his side.

"Loyalty is my honor"

Sad part is that that dickneck probably believes that shit deep down. The funny part is that he's probably 140# soaking wet and couldn't slap anybody upside the head. I'd like to see that pathetic twerp step up to somebody and start spouting; he'd get his ass handed to him. On a philosophical note, I think it's sad that he will only feel successful when he's comparing himself to others; he'll never find fulfillment or peace that way.

.75 Camalot, #3.5 Camalot

what I need is someoome to create a system I can use and teach it to me. Just a simple system 'when this then this' type of thing. When there is slack, take it in. Make long butterfly loops over your tie-in as you take in rope; repeat as necessary until joined at your belay by the body tied to the other end of the rope. If it gets tangled, you'll die. thanks smart ass Anytime. More advice: wear sunscreen, don't eat yellow snow, and be nice to old people.