Greg_W

Ray and I left our camp early on Saturday; the approach was nice. We met some friendly people. After hiking a bunch longer, we made it to our planned bivy spot. We hung out, looked around, ate, drank water. The hike out the next day was equally nice and we ran into more friendly people. Greg W P.S. Sorry, those of you beta-whores looking for information will find none here. Get off the couch and find it for yourself; it's all there.

Dude, ponytail, funky glasses, Filson coat: how could you doubt that Beck is the man?

Do you need bodyguards or security personnel? Trask and I are fairly well-armed.

Whoa!! Didn't peg you for a gun-toter. Way to go, chica!!

You're misguided and wrong. Let's get together and I'll show you my information. Please cite references for everything you've stated here; it's all bullshit. "Accidental discharge" injuries make up "a lot of gun victims"? Hardly. misguided???? you puppet president decided to go on with the assult weapons ban about a month ago. every police organization in the state of washington in the 2002 elections wanted to limmit gun sales, just friggin' read newspapers! (due to fire arms) (from Washington Cease fire web page) so there, 30 children killed or injured every year by "responsible gun owners" Boy, Washington Ceasefire couldn't possibly be skewing facts or anything, huh. People twist stats, it's an unfortunate fact of these types of debates.

Maybe cuz Clinton violated a real concrete law, whereas Bush didn't. I don't think it's an issue of which is worse than the other, but which can be pursued by the law. (I'm not defending Bush) Articles of impeachment are designed to remove a standing president in the case that his actions undermined the greater good of the country as a whole. Clinton's lying under oath about getting a blowjob from the intern did nothing to affect the security, prosperity or soverignty of this nation. You could make a case much easier than Bush's actions did. Bullshit, there is no "greater good" clause in the Constitution.

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You're misguided and wrong. Let's get together and I'll show you my information. Please cite references for everything you've stated here; it's all bullshit. "Accidental discharge" injuries make up "a lot of gun victims"? Hardly.

Gaston; I understand that you would think this way, coming from socialist anti-gun Europe. Crime doesn't only follow poverty, but it also follows an unarmed populace. This has been statistically proven; good reference on this is "More Guns, Less Crime", by John Lott, an economist. To refute your assertion, look at the rising violent crime rates in Britain where handguns were banned in 1995 (or 1996); look also at violent crime rates in rural communities where there are quite a few guns. There will always be murder, just new and different implements - that is a human issue, unfortunately. I'd be happy to discuss this over beers with you sometime. By the way, did you ever do that retro-bolting work up at Static? Greg W Greg- I seem to remember prior arguments comparing the murder rates in Richmond, Va; Baltimore, MD; and Washington, DC which came to a not so clear conclusion. (Namely their murder rates are all similar, but there gun policies are vastly different). Actually, Baltimore (and Maryland as a whole) and DC are VERY restrictive on handguns; almost an outright ban in Balt. and a ban in DC. Both have high murder rates. Can't speak to Richmond, but I know the Project Exile program has been very successful there.

taht is precisely my point as well numb nuts... Fence, shut the fuck up or debate intelligently. Sheeeeit, you're giving conservatives a bad name here.

Two points: One, Bush doesn't need permission from the "public" to send troops into a foreign land. Two, impeachment was due to lying under oath; don't misconstrue the issue there.

Oh, but you are mistaken, Gaston. I can prevent my own murder, and that of those around me, if so confronted BECAUSE I carry a gun to defend myself. Wouldn't that have an effect on the murder rate (i.e., murder prevention)?

Gaston; I understand that you would think this way, coming from socialist anti-gun Europe. Crime doesn't only follow poverty, but it also follows an unarmed populace. This has been statistically proven; good reference on this is "More Guns, Less Crime", by John Lott, an economist. To refute your assertion, look at the rising violent crime rates in Britain where handguns were banned in 1995 (or 1996); look also at violent crime rates in rural communities where there are quite a few guns. There will always be murder, just new and different implements - that is a human issue, unfortunately. I'd be happy to discuss this over beers with you sometime. By the way, did you ever do that retro-bolting work up at Static? Greg W

I'd consider water-proofing issues if you are going to be in that environment for several days. I guess you can always use a vapor barrier liner (or bread bags work if you got no cash) and take spare socks. So, basically, I hear you asking if the Trangos are a good walking boot and how much steep stuff you will encounter. Is that right?

heard good things about the DMM Flys; I think you can demo them at PMS.

Are you more interested in a tool that is good for alpine climbing or waterfalls? Might help the discussion if you mentioned the type of climbing you want to do.

i've already found it; i'm just trying to figure out a way to get let in for good. Good luck to ya. I'll haul your shit to the border in my truck, if you want; Trask'll probably help.

Find a better country and go there.

What happens when they coincide, Kurt?

That's because you're only 3 feet tall. Hey Greg...I'm like 2'-6"...let's go climbing sometime and you can even use your "height advantage" ... You'll have to buy my beer though... Height advantage, my ass. I know you small dudes can crank, especially you, RUmr. I'll pony for the suds, bro.

Uh, fuck off, honey. I had other shit to take care of, thank you very much.

But is he bringing you PBR's from the cooler and rolling your doobies for ya?

Still delusional, I see

What you talkin' bout Willis... heh, it's jkruger