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whole country went to hell after ice cube left nwa

it's ironic that you dislike the proletariat and their culture

"walking is man's best medicine" - hippocrates

on the plus side, this thread got almost 3 pages of decent material in before it turning into a muff-diving snorkel debate

bombs lotz n' lotza bombs

its nice to see bill n' tvash agree on somethign

bitching about spray n' latent-homosexual angst in a beacon thread is like bitching about the horrible acting and vacous plot-line in a soap-opera - dood, watcha even READING the thing 'fore if'n you don't like stuff that sucks?!

pretty sure from the outset that the beatard forum was intended to a be a spray-shield

they weren't already going after tax dollars w/ bush's prescription drug benefit?

work is a 4-letter word

there is no topo - it's pretty much indiana jones archealogical style clibing over there - if you rap in you can find some great trad cracks, but most of the shit at the base is so wet and slabby it needs bolts (yeah, let's merge a beacon AND a bolts conversation! ) any rate, if you do get possessed to go tinkering around on that side be fuck-sure to have someone on the ground w/ a radio so you don't kill any tourists, eh? in addition to being overgrown, the n side is VERY fractured.

i love raptors but for whatever reason i find peregrines boring - too small and bitchy looking - kestrels are cool as tiny raptors, ospreys are incredible to watch hunt and red-tails generally kick ass in their giant obquity- peregrines are like goddamn chinamen it is cooling seeing birds of every sort at beacon - i imagine i'd be a little bummed if the p's were gone, but i'm sure i'd be able to find a way to console meself.

you guys should make friendship bracelets for each other

if only the gorge walls weren't made out of semi-petrified dinosaur turds

my problem as well - for us sad-sack family-types w/ a buncha young kids, we only get to play vertical-limit a couple hours a week, and beacon suuuuure scratches that itch - ozone, farside, broughtons are all okay, but don't feel like adventure at all. smiff and pts farther off are awesome, but might as well be in inner mongolia most weekends.

take it to spray ya'll

the north side has been climbed on for many years. in 2001 guy pinjuv and i almost climbed a "new" line to the summit but were stopped about a pitch short. beautiful up there. whereabouts? where did you start/end? did you see any old gear along the way and did you leave any? it is the beatard season for poking round up there afterall.

terray didn't see to toil in servitude much at all

naw, merely ellusive

looks haaaaaaaawt!

just high on life?

right of the sign at the water fountain is in-bounds, which includes plenty of solid rock, though much of it is blank or needing a week or more of dry conditions to be climbable hadn't heard shane had moved away - does that mean the pitch above seige tactics hasn't been developed - its out of the shelter of the roof so i've never explored it in winter and have never climbed there in summer/fall unless it was totally shitty out - thought i saw some bolts getting put up there though (ST pitch 1 though doesnt have a single piece of fixed gear though) i don't know that anything is being revived so much as there are several routes i know of that already go up the n side and evidence that many more once existed but have been reclaimed by time and moss and neglect that could be recovered by a motivated climber (though in winter it'll have to be mostly an aid project since its rarely not soaking then)

You can start by quit sucking up to the man. hey! that's a fine tool song! tool! "hooker w/ a penis"

being told merely to break inconvenient (and unnecessary) laws is hardly good advice though - yes, people shouldn't violate the closure, but simply closing the trail (espeically when this time of year, w/ all the brush dormant, you can actually do a COOL circumnav of the monolith which requuires the use of the trail) is tantamount to saying "we dont' have enough cops or funds to pay for more cops to watch this county road for speeders, so we'll just close it for half the year" and yes, walking around the base w/ your young kids (like dave and i and probably kev too) is quite cool, espeically when you bring headlamps for them to explore the tunnels!

it's the seasonal time for the reminder that the n face IS always open too - siege tactics, for the aid or 5.12 leader is a fantastic, and more importantly ALL weather, route (would someone please ask shane for permission for a mid-pitch anchor on headspace too, as even in a howling storm the first 1/2 of that pitch is totally dry, but past that point completly impossible, even on aid, in the usual conditions)- there are also a number of other routes up to the summit, especially the railroader's delight FA of the whole monolith, complete w/ 100+ year old via ferrata bars - there are certainly many other mysterious and lost to antiquity routes on this side, given the variety of ancient bolts and pins (and pop-bottles of every generation since the hoover-presidency)to be found when adventure-rapping from the summit, and not quite ALL of them coated in poision oak and festooned w/ house sized boulders!